Smartwater & H.I.S.S

[Taz]

Just been looking for Varaderos and I've found one that's supposedly got a "Smartwater" and a "H.I.S.S." (???). Now, can anyone tell me what the hell they are? :?:

Also, whilst I'm at it, can someone tell me what a Scott Oiler is? Sounds like something to do with chain lubrication, but more often than not they seem to be made too much of in ads for bikes for them to be merely a chain lubrication device.

[Whealie]

can someone tell me what a Scott Oiler is? Sounds like something to do with chain lubrication, but more often than not they seem to be made too much of in ads for bikes for them to be merely a chain lubrication device
It IS a chain lubrication device. And very good too.

[DaveS]

Taz.... a Google on any one of those 3 items gets you copious amounts of responses explaining what they are.

I think you must have been living in a cave if you don't know what a Scottoiler is! They've been around for donkey's years.

[severs]

...a "Smartwater" ?
An "invisible" bike identifier that allows the cops to give you your bike back after it has been nicked, recovered, and its identity changed. Good idea, but I bet very few nicked bikes are ever recovered.

...a "H.I.S.S." ?
The factory-fitted immobiliser on modern Hondas, with a transponder in the key that activates it. Works good, many insurance companies recognise it and discount for it just like for any decent immobiliser. Comes with a special serial number in case you need to buy replacement keys.

...someone tell me what a Scott Oiler is?
Automatic chain lubricator. Engine intake vacuum triggers it so it drips oil on the chain only when engine is running. Probably the best auto-oiler you can buy, extends chain life so well that it actually does pay for itself, and of course it saves you the faff of spraying chain lube on the chain yourself. Just remember to fill the reservoir with oil every however-many miles. Great for touring! It has become the hallmark of an owner who cares about their bike, and therefore you see its presence mentioned in second-hand bike adverts.

[Man up North]

Scot oiler is either 1 of 3 things -

1. Chain lubercation

2. A type of lube a gay man called Scot would use on someone or something.

3. Its a scotsman working in the oil industry...


:shock: :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :twisted:

[faantjie]

Scot oiler is either 1 of 3 things -

1. Chain lubercation

2. A type of lube a gay man called Scot would use on someone or something.

3. Its a scotsman working in the oil industry...


:shock: :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :twisted:


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[Maverick]

Scot oiler is either 1 of 3 things -

1. Chain lubercation

2. A type of lube a gay man called Scot would use on someone or something.

3. Its a scotsman working in the oil industry...


:shock: :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :twisted:

Good thing no one asked what a Loobman is :mrgreen:

[Chad]

Scot oiler is either 1 of 3 things -

1. Chain lubercation

2. A type of lube a gay man called Scot would use on someone or something.

3. Its a scotsman working in the oil industry...


:shock: :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :twisted:

:laughing3: :laughing3: :laughing3: :laughing3: :laughing3:

oh and if you do buy a vara with h.i.s.s dont lose the key or you will have to remortgage the house :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

[Yeti]

I'll second that for the 650 TA as well. Pre warned by the shop to loose the bike if I loose the key!!!

In excess of £200 I believe :shock: :shock:

[Recycler]

It's very expensive if you lose both keys.

I think if they get damaged however, you can get a standard cheap one cut and stick the HISS one close to the barrel to fool the system.

[piguglyshandydrinker]

It's very expensive if you lose both keys.

I think if they get damaged however, you can get a standard cheap one cut and stick the HISS one close to the barrel to fool the system.

I've been wondering about this.....

When abroad I'd like to have a spare key stashed on the bike somewhere.....

Don't fancy buying a new key from Honda to do the job, don't fancy hiding an original key on there (and using a copy) incase the bike get's nicked - taking the original with it (insurance company could be a bit funny 'bout it!).

Any electronics gurus out there know how to bypass the system or recreate a duplicate transponder???
I can then use two copy key's - one hidden and one for using.

Answers on a postcard please.

Phil

[Chad]

It's very expensive if you lose both keys.

I think if they get damaged however, you can get a standard cheap one cut and stick the HISS one close to the barrel to fool the system.

I've been wondering about this.....

When abroad I'd like to have a spare key stashed on the bike somewhere.....

Don't fancy buying a new key from Honda to do the job, don't fancy hiding an original key on there (and using a copy) incase the bike get's nicked - taking the original with it (insurance company could be a bit funny 'bout it!).

Any electronics gurus out there know how to bypass the system or recreate a duplicate transponder???
I can then use two copy key's - one hidden and one for using.

Answers on a postcard please.

Phil

i think your going to need a bigger post card :lol: :lol: :lol:

[djadams]

Don't reckon insurers would be overly chuffed about it being bypassed, either.

Best bet, IMHO, is to stash a spare key on you, not the bike. All I do is keep a spare key in a zipped up pocket of my riding jacket that doesn't get used for anything else. My main key I always keep in the pocket of whatever trrousers I'm wearing that day.

If no jacket pockets you don't use, secure it into a pocket you do use (sew it in so it can't fall out??).

If I lose my main key, I'm unlikely to have lost my jacket as well (unless it's a really bad day) in which case I'll still have my spare key. Stashing on bike is asking for trouble, and no better than stashing in jacket.

Doesn't get round the problem of the cost of replacement (though key cutting places these days can do pattern car transponder keys by cloning the chip, no reason why they couldn't do bike ones too - pug charge £120, local shop nearer £40).

[piguglyshandydrinker]

Don't reckon insurers would be overly chuffed about it being bypassed, either.

Best bet, IMHO, is to stash a spare key on you, not the bike. All I do is keep a spare key in a zipped up pocket of my riding jacket that doesn't get used for anything else. My main key I always keep in the pocket of whatever trrousers I'm wearing that day.

If no jacket pockets you don't use, secure it into a pocket you do use (sew it in so it can't fall out??).

If I lose my main key, I'm unlikely to have lost my jacket as well (unless it's a really bad day) in which case I'll still have my spare key. Stashing on bike is asking for trouble, and no better than stashing in jacket.

Doesn't get round the problem of the cost of replacement (though key cutting places these days can do pattern car transponder keys by cloning the chip, no reason why they couldn't do bike ones too - pug charge £120, local shop nearer £40).


Don't fancy carrying a spare key on me - if the tent get's cleaned out one night (it has been known) they've got the key to the bike.
I currently put valuables (passport, d/license, c/card's, bike key) in a bum bag in my sleeping bag when camping, for that very reason.
If someone is going to start rummaging around in my sleeping bag with me in it, she, better be good looking, not after my money and not after my bike!!!

Phil

[Austin]

when I got my TA last year it came with one key - dealer got me a new one, and then had the bike for over 3hours while they programmed it for the bike or was it the the other way round - I think you can have 3 different keys. Either the owner's manual or Mr Haynes explains how to do this but you might need some special wiring. That probably means the whole thing could be disabled if you know how to do it.

[piguglyshandydrinker]

when I got my TA last year it came with one key - dealer got me a new one, and then had the bike for over 3hours while they programmed it for the bike or was it the the other way round - I think you can have 3 different keys. Either the owner's manual or Mr Haynes explains how to do this but you might need some special wiring. That probably means the whole thing could be disabled if you know how to do it.

Never yet heard of being able tp disable (if that makes sense :? ) the HISS. How much to get the new key and programming?

Phil