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Right been enquiring about importing the Facet fuel pumps from the US.
If I buy 10 I can sell them out to you at £28 each exc P&P. This gives the site £4 profit on each pump.
I don't think this includes the pipe adaptors, so will need to source these as well.
However in principal how does this sound? Anyone interested.
SteveLee
04-11-05, 07:22 AM
I'd be interested in one Dave. Mine is still OK after 30k miles but I'm sure it's only a matter of time until it goes (especially now I've said that!).
Steve
Hi Dave
I' ll have one at that price, my 94 @ 24000 miles is alright at present but tis only a matter of time.
jvaughan
04-11-05, 03:27 PM
one here Dave
Muckybill
04-11-05, 04:08 PM
Put me down for one Dave.
Bill
put me down for one as well dave , its good to abide by the 5p's
perfect preparation prevents piss poor performance :lol:
Dilbert
04-11-05, 07:28 PM
put me down for one as well dave , its good to abide by the 5p's
perfect preparation prevents piss poor performance :lol:
1,2,3,4,5,6 suggest you see the maths teacher after school :lol:
:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: you got me there dude :thefinger:
you know whats worse i counted them as i typed it out :oops: :lol: :lol:
OK I'll go for it then assuming I can find the connectors to the fuel pipes next.
Dilbert
05-11-05, 12:00 AM
Dave are these American, the threads will probably be NPT, not BSP, let me know if you need a hand sourcing the connectors :wink:
Dave are these American, the threads will probably be NPT, not BSP, let me know if you need a hand sourcing the connectors :wink:
Yes they are American, well sourced from America. I've asked them about the connectors to fuel pipes and they haven't responded yet.
Any help appreciated.
Dilbert
05-11-05, 07:12 PM
Dave if you go into an engineers suppliers or a good tool/ hardware shop with the pump and a length of hose they should be able to match it up, tell them you think the threads may be NPT (BSP will not seal properly unless the ports are 1/2").
If you don't get any joy let me know, or I could volunteer mr Woolley if he's closer :lol:
The problem is I haven't got the pumps and I'm nervous about buying them unless I've got the connectors sorted.
GSPD750
06-11-05, 03:46 AM
Hello Dave S. and all the rest who are interested in the Facet. Its not a problem for me to ship you the req'd fittings from Canada. But...I may ask someone to return the favour when I may need an AT part posted to Canada. :lol: As you know Honda Canada does not support the AT and most OEM parts I require come from the UK or Germany. Convincing a UK Ebayer (seller) to ship to Canada can also be a problem.
The brass fitting (straight) as seen in the picture of my origional post is
in my opinion the fitting which will work the best. I can source them for a bit over $2 CDN or just under 1 GBP each. For the 10 pumps you order you will of course need 20 of these brass fittings.
Another option is the aviation style AN fitting which you should be able to source from most Aviation Supply stores. They may be more exspensive, but if you buy in quantity you may save. They come with different angles
as you can see from pics. The inside diameter is slightly smaller then the brass ones. Should not affect performance or pressures.
The following are anodized aluminum.
They are in order AN840-4D, AN844-4D and AN842-4D
http://gspd750.smugmug.com/photos/43193053-S.jpg
Another alternative is the AN816-4D (aluminum). As seen in the pic the threads have to be machined or filed off on one end. The black fitting is steel which is AN816-4...it still has the threads.
http://gspd750.smugmug.com/photos/43193055-S.jpg
Again, I would suggest the straight brass as in my orgional post.
They also come in a 'right angle' fitting as seen in the pic. The straight one is probably all you really need unless someone wants to get creative routing the fuel lines. Don't forget the wrap of teflon tape when installing the fittting.
http://gspd750.smugmug.com/photos/43193051-S.jpg
So let me know Dave. Its not a problem for me to buy them (and ship direct to you in the UK) as most automotive stores carry them here. Some have slightly different nipple ends than others, however I will send the type you see in the pics.
Wayne
GSPD750
06-11-05, 04:04 AM
Another note on the brass fitting versus the AN aviation fittings.
When you trim the OEM fuel hose to size you will find it fits very snug
on the brass fitting when using the spring clamp. Where as on the AN fitting you may find the hose slightly loose and will require a screw type hose clamp which will then have a tendency to bulge the hose.
This will all depend of course on what type of fuel hose you use.
As you can see I have experimented with both. :lol:
Dilbert
06-11-05, 10:50 AM
The problem is I haven't got the pumps and I'm nervous about buying them unless I've got the connectors sorted.
Dave
Don't be! we can either take Wayne up on his kind offer, contact Facet or check the threads out when they arrive, at worst you may need to post one to me or one of the other engineers who plague this site and have access to a hydraulic fitting catalogue or supplier.
Wayne
I note the pumps are UL approved so Facet will be able to supply the info, I have sourced many items from the US as I have worked with them on projects based over there, I will possibly also get involved in a new tie up with a Canadian firm to supply equipment to a site in Washington State USA.
I may ask your help with sizing or supplier/ catalogue references if required :wink:
Dilbert
06-11-05, 11:01 AM
Quick trawl of t'internet shows most models to be 1/8" NPT (fine) threads, give me the model number SS???? and I will confirm, there are UK suppliers for Facet but they look a lot more expensive.
GSPD750
06-11-05, 03:41 PM
Quick trawl of t'internet shows most models to be 1/8" NPT (fine) threads, give me the model number SS???? .
Not sure what you mean by SS number :?:
I'll wait for a response from DaveS.
As I said before, I'll be happy to ship them.
I'll get back soon with a more accurate cost for 20.
GSPD750
06-11-05, 06:08 PM
Ok. Just back from the auto parts store. They have plenty of stock on the straight brass fitting (large nipple) at $1.67 CDN each which includes tax. Thats $33 CDN or 16 GBP for qty 20.
Just trying to help the cause here which includes our safety. Fuel starvation in high speed traffic is no fun.
OK well let me get the pumps first and then we'll sort out the connectors.
It seems that we'll be able to sort it one way or the other.
GSPD750
07-11-05, 07:55 PM
Facet also has a fuel filter you can screw direct to the pump.
http://www.aptfast.com/Images_Parts/Fuel_Sytem/536-L6004.jpg
Also appears you can get just about everything you need in the UK at the following link which is the pump #40105, fittings and filter. Pump on the first page and fittings and filter at the bottom of the last page. pdf file.
My apologies to DaveS if I'm messing with your origional plan.
http://www.fuelsystem.co.uk/web-facet.pdf
Can someone tell me what size our fuel pipe is on the AT please.
Thanks.
GSPD750
08-11-05, 05:59 PM
Can someone tell me what size our fuel pipe is on the AT please.
Thanks.
typically measured by inside diam. But on our AT it can vary
depending where and which flare attach point. Mid stream 6mm.
Generally 8mm at attach points.
Sorry not a good answer.
Taken from the pdf file.
1/8 NPTF to suit 8mm hose (FPA903/A)
1/8 NPTF to suit 6mm hose (FPA903/B)
1/8 NPTF to suit 10mm hose (FPA903/C)
Right then some changes and options.
Cost to you
Basic Facet 40105 - No hose connectors although these should only cost £5 or so.
Aircraft Spruce (USA) - £31.00 - It might be less if I don't get stung for VAT when importing them.
Merlin Motorsport (UK) - £36.00
Facet 40105 Kit (which includes pre filter, mounting rubbers and hose connectors suitable for the AT)
Merlin Motorsport (UK) - £48.50
None of the above prices included P&P.
I'm interested to know if the majority would be interested in the kit as it offers a pre filter and the hose connectors or whether people want the basic pump with connectors?
The reason for the increase is that Aircraft Spruce are saying that as its my first order I need to pay by bank transfer which is really expensive to the US and is a major pain in the arse still it seems just about worth it for the cheaper price.
Hi Dave
I would happily pay for the complete kit, it's still a lot cheaper than a genuine pump. :)
SteveLee
09-11-05, 07:30 AM
Dave,
Either pump plus connectors or the complete kit would be fine for me.
Steve
petes350
09-12-05, 07:52 PM
My pump failed too.
LAS Aero in Devon supply the pumps - £24.27 plus VAT and P&P - I think mine came to about £32 in total, but they only had 2 in stock at the time so may be out by now.
I sourced connectors from FSE - they gave me contact details for the nearest stockist (Somerset).
Here's the link to LAS:
http://www.lasaero.com/las/?part=40105
xrv_jim
10-12-05, 09:36 AM
I'm interested to know if the majority would be interested in the kit as it offers a pre filter and the hose connectors or whether people want the basic pump with connectors?
Count me in for the full kit Dave - it's only a matter of time...:wink:
Yes I need to get my arse in gear on this one.
Been tied up with other things.
Will sort out a bulk order soon.
Dave
Stick me in the pot for a pump and bits pls
Dave
I still got an American bank account so I can send a US dollar cheque.
There is enough money there to cover costs if this is of help
johnadams
20-12-05, 05:18 PM
Dave, I will have the complete kit as well please if this is still on. What do wee need to do?
Nothing really.
I just seriously need to get my arse in gear and get them sorted.
Its just that I seem to busy at the moment what with Xmas and work at the moment.
Work seems to get in the way of everything!
I know where I getting them from (locally) but I've decided not to order the kits and purely to keep it simple with just the pumps.
I'll get them all ordered in the new year and then set-up a web page for you guys to order them from me.
Sorry for the delay.
Right they have been ordered.
The chaps at Merlin Motorsport have been fantastic and done us a good deal on the pumps and the unions.
I'll work out prices in due course and set-up a web page for payment over Xmas.
I've gone for the basic pump and the unions rather than the kit.
Will post back when I get the pumps.
fantastic well done dave :hello1:
im not having probs at the moment but will have the kit when you is ready , just so im ready for when it happens :D
Right picking up the pumps on Saturday.
Not built an order page yet, but get your credit cards ready. :mrgreen:
yippie 8) :wav: :wav: :wav: :occasion5:
romeo one
05-01-06, 10:06 PM
If there`s any spare I`d like one please.
Muckybill
06-01-06, 05:13 PM
gimmee gimmee gimmee :D :D :cheers:
xrv_jim
06-01-06, 09:14 PM
I'm in :!:
Ok here's the deal.
1 x FACET 40105 Solid State Fuel Pump
1 x Filter Union (Inlet)
1 x Normal Union (Outlet)
Cost = £37.00 (inc small donation to the running of the site)
P&P = £6.00 (Insured Royal Mail Special Delivery Next Day)
PayPal fee = £0.50
Grand Total to pay = £43.50
The pump is guaranteed, however if you chop off the legs on the pump as per the recommendations elsewhere on this site, I imagine this will invalidate the warranty.
You will be responsible for fitting the pump and modifying it to be suitable for your AT. This site takes no responsiblity for the incorrect fitment of this fuel pump, if in doubt get a qualified motorcycle mechanic to fit it.
I have 10 at the moment, but can order more if these prove popular.
Order here......> http://www.xrv.org.uk/store/store_front.php
Here's what you get...
http://www.xrv.org.uk/getimage.php?id=1451
All sorted the pumps are now available from our own shop. :mrgreen:
http://www.xrv.org.uk/store/store_front.php
wicked will go shopping tomorrow , ive just got back from cavemans been riding through rain snow sleet road salt and everything else nature and car drivers can throw at me and washed the @ down :shock: strangly im still grinning like a cheshire cat :lol:
jvaughan
07-01-06, 11:01 PM
make that 7 Dave :)
GSPD750
07-01-06, 11:41 PM
Congrats to everyone who is about to purchase the Facet. I'm really pleased it with thus far.
Just thought I would mention something which I somehow overlooked during the cutting off of the mounting ears (or legs as DaveS calls them)
If you look carefully you will see the pump model # 40105 stamped
on one of the ears.
This is your only identifier on the pump. Otherwise they look all the same
and pump pressures vary from model to model.
IF you are to use the exsisting OEM rubber shock mount remember that it is extremely tight going on. Heat the rubber and grease it up and it will go on. My pics prove it. :lol:
Again, make sure you have grinded the edges smooth where you have cutoff the ears. Otherwise you could cut yourself or the rubber shock mount during the installation.
IF you destroy the rubber shock mount OR do not have one you can get
them from Mr. Honda. p/n 16711-MN8-000
me to hopefully gone through by pay pal ,it says completed :?
yup just got reciept 8) :lol:
Technical query.
In Wayne's installation guide (excellant) it would seem that he is still using the original fuel filter situated in its original location just after the fuel tank outlet with the fuel pipe 'in' then going directly into the Facet pump.
Where would our new fuel filter be fitted?
If it fits directly into the Facet (on the 'fuel in' side) it would seem judgeing by the photos on wayne's guide that its going to very difficult to fit the fuel pipe onto it without distorting the fuel pipe as it effectively extends the length of the pump by quite a bit.
What do you think?
Technical query.
In Wayne's installation guide (excellant) it would seem that he is still using the original fuel filter situated in its original location just after the fuel tank outlet with the fuel pipe 'in' then going directly into the Facet pump.
Where would our new fuel filter be fitted?
If it fits directly into the Facet (on the 'fuel in' side) it would seem judgeing by the photos (7 and 8) on wayne's guide that its going to very difficult to fit the fuel pipe onto it without distorting the fuel pipe as it effectively extends the length of the pump by quite a bit.
What do you think?
Good point and I don't know the answer. You don't have to fit the filter, but you would need another union. I can get some in if needs be. The filter does make it stick out by an extra 1.5" I estimate.
If it's a major problem I can also get 45 degree union bends as well.
So all those that have bought one so far... please suss out the fitting before you start to hack off the old pump and leave yourself high and dry!!!
And post back your results here!
Having said all of that I don't think that the fuel pipe will kink because of the spring covering that helps it to keep its shape.
These pics demonstrate the problem I think. Think of adding another 1.5" to the length of the union.
http://gspd750.smugmug.com/photos/36869100-S.jpg
http://gspd750.smugmug.com/photos/36869096-S.jpg
I reckon the fuel pipe 'will' kink or be wanting to at least.
We could as you say, just continue using the original filter or possibly swap it for the new filter but still retain the original location?
Is the threaded end on the new filter long enough to take and hold the fuel pipes. Its no big deal to just get the little threaded fitting and fit as per Wayne's setup. What size thread is it?
I reckon the fuel pipe 'will' kink or be wanting to at least.
We could as you say, just continue using the original filter or possibly swap it for the new filter but still retain the original location?
Is the threaded end on the new filter long enough to take and hold the fuel pipes. Its no big deal to just get the little threaded fitting and fit as per Wayne's setup. What size thread is it?
The filter can only attach to the pump on the inlet side.
If you don't use the filter you need another union. I've asked our suppliers to be ready with extra parts if we need them!
GSPD750
08-01-06, 02:34 PM
Technical query.
Where would our new fuel filter be fitted?
What do you think?
I was going to pose the same question. I just had a look
at my bike and your right. Judging by the length of the filter it may
be too long for the fuel line to properly fit without kinking
it badly.
The question here really is...Do you need that 2nd filter?
And why would you want 2 filters? I would use the fittings
(straight) ones you see in my pics for both the inlet and outlet.
The 'one' DaveS is supplying looks identical. I guess now you will
need another one if you follow my installation exactly.
Regardless, you have to trim the fuel lines as required. Easy to do.
You can cut the wire spring thingys also to size which the lines go thru.
The line coming from the OEM filter already has a bend to
it so you know it will connect nicely to a straight fitting
...but it may not to the steel filter.
I was going to pose the same question. I just had a look
at my bike and your right. Judging by the length of the filter it may
be too long for the fuel line to properly fit without kinking
it badly.
Do you think there's enough room if the inlet goes through 90 degrees and then the fuel pipe is connected?
For those that have ordered I have 3 options
1. Wait until we know whether we can use the Facet filter and what bits might be required to make it work. Assuming it doesn't 'cause its too tight at the moment.
2. Ship your pump as advertised and you'll see what you can do and how it fits, possibly exploring other ways of mounting the pump.
3. Ship your pump with the two standard unions, but without the filter so you can fit it as per GSPD750's original post.
Please advise. If I hear nothing I will assume its option 1.
Down to 4 now.
I will order some more pumps if needs be.
Also be aware that those that are ordering now that I'll be short of the standard unions until I can get some more potentially as it looks like we can't use the filter union.
Muckybill
08-01-06, 05:05 PM
Just ordered mine.
Just been fiddling with my bike as i am giving it a good check over and a major service so this is a good time to fit the new pump.
Can`t wait. :D
Bill
as ive said im not having problems yet , not sure if i should just fit it anyway so its done and dusted , send mine as is dave and i'll see wot happens :D
For myself Dave I'd rather have the two small unions and fit it as per Wayne's setup,
I'm not bothered about the filter which you can keep or give to someone who wants it. I'll be happy using the original fuel filter.
Ta.
GSPD750
08-01-06, 11:08 PM
Tooting my horn here... but IMO the 'neat and tidy' way and the
'simplist' way to install this pump is by my origional post.
You don't want to butcher your AT and make it look 'homemade' :roll:
Its everyones option to be creative as they want. I experimented with
some aircraft AN fittings but found they bulged the hoses when clamped.
The larger the nipple the better. The OEM hose is good quality and now would be a good time to replace if its hard and deteriorated. Most of you
will find you can reuse the hose if your bike is not that old. Your cutting
off the end anyhow so damaging the hose when removing it is no big deal.
For those who want to use the steel filter maybe you can bend the nipple
with a tube bender ???
GSPD750
09-01-06, 12:14 AM
One more tip when installing the fittings or unions onto the
pump. Even though it appears to be a robust looking pump
I would still put a adjustable wrench on the flats of the inlet and
outlet of the pump (back it up) whilst turning the unions onto the pump.
Being a tapered pipe thread it can take a bit of torque...but not enough
to where you have screw it ALL the way in. Good and snug. Don't
forget the teflon tape on the threads of the union. :wink:
jvaughan
09-01-06, 12:47 AM
Down to 4 now.
I will order some more pumps if needs be.
Also be aware that those that are ordering now that I'll be short of the standard unions until I can get some more potentially as it looks like we can't use the filter union.
Dave, I dont necessarily need my pump yet. If you want to delay dispatch, im cool with that.
The extra unions should be with me tomorrow.
So normal service is resumed.
xrv_jim
09-01-06, 07:53 PM
So I take it you're despatching with two normal unions rather than one plus a filter union.
No you can have the filter one as well.
It will look lovely on the mantlepiece.
So that's two normal unions and one filter union. ;-)
I've started to ship the pumps, 2 going out tomorrow as I had them all bagged up.
The rest I think on Thursday.
You will receive an email before it gets despatched, and all will be sent by Royal Mail Special Delivery which should get there next day.
I'm loosing count already I think I have 4 left now.
<later> Nope make that 3.
C'mon guys I don't want to get left with the last 3!
SteveLee
10-01-06, 07:46 AM
Just ordered mine Dave - cheers for sorting this out for us.
fw600vj
10-01-06, 10:54 PM
DaveS i have sent you a P.M. fw600vj :oops:
Now down to 2.
Looks like if demand keeps up I'll be ordering another few.
YEN_POWELL
11-01-06, 04:18 PM
Time to confess I've just bought a Honda fuel pump to replace my Mikuni vacuum pump which had started to give me a few minor problems this last month after 40,000 trouble free miles. I bought the one for a 99 model from Dave Silver which was £40 cheaper than the new improved 2000 version which I know lasts exactly the same amount of time.
Wasn't sure if this would cure my troubles, but so far so good. Seems it was the pump after all.
got mine through today :D thanks dave nice one :mrgreen:
Chad although you've got yours now, let me know if I could help out by crimping some decent insulated spade connectors on for the others, before they go out.
I've got a good crimper now from Xmas and it makes lovely professional connections so I can put it to good use, if its helpful.
that might be a good idea :D im ok because ive got a set of the ratchet ones from my truck building days 8)
thats a nice idea and if the buyer doesnt want to use them they can always cut them off :shock:
I wasn't sure until I looked what electrical connections the existing pump has, but if they were male spades I could put two females on to the pump wires and then its one less thing to worry about.
Does anyone know what the electrical connectors are at the pump end?
GSPD750
11-01-06, 07:38 PM
Does anyone know what the electrical connectors are at the pump end?
Its a plug connector. Best to leave it plugged in as is (providing you have the origional pump) and butt splice the wires with a connector of your choice. ie. permanent or a qwik disconnect type spade connector.
The connector is buried and wrapped under the horn of the saddle and requires the removel of the tank.
note origional pump wiring:
green wire - ground
blue/black wire + power
So the pump has a long wire that goes up to the connector under the tank?
There's no connector at the pump end.
My current pump is still fine and I'll keep it.
So in case I ever want to fit it back, I should cut the wire close to the pump, and fit say a spade or bullet connector, and then also fit bullet or spades to the old pump as well in case I want to put it back at any time.
So the pump has a long wire that goes up to the connector under the tank?
There's no connector at the pump end.
My current pump is still fine and I'll keep it so in case I ever want to fit it back, I should cut the wire close to the pump, and fit say a spade or bullet connector, and then also fit bullet or spades to the old pump as well in case I want to put it back at any time.
thats how im going to do it . i was going to wait but theres no point in buying a pump then waiting to breakdown on the old one, so i think i'll keep the old one for emergencys ,or if someone gets problems and needs one quick :D
Ideally of course you don't want connectors there and exposed so I'll probably put some heat shrink tubing over mine and shrink it down when its all fitted.
stop reading my mind :mrgreen: there are horrors in there you dont want to see :lol: :lol: i did think of soldering the joints then heatshrinking if you have to go back to the oe pump its only a case of cutting the wire again :D
GSPD750
11-01-06, 08:25 PM
So the pump has a long wire that goes up to the connector under the tank?
There's no connector at the pump end.
Correct.
Got mine today, cheers Dave.
jvaughan
13-01-06, 11:37 AM
Pump just arrived. Thanks dave
Muckybill
13-01-06, 03:57 PM
Pump arived today. Thanks Dave your a star.
You will be mentioned in despatches :D :occasion5:
Bill
Thanks for letting me know guys.
BTW We're down to 1 left now.
I will be able to get more so this is only the first batch. Although there might be a slight delay whilst I get hold of them.
Tornado
14-01-06, 08:41 PM
Thanks for letting me know guys.
BTW We're down to 1 left now.
I will be able to get more so this is only the first batch. Although there might be a slight delay whilst I get hold of them.
Just sent you some monies , hopefully got the last one :roll: :?:
Technical query No 2.
In Wayne's installation guide he removes the little wings/tabs in order for it to fit into the existing rubber mounting.
Having received the pump I now see that the pump body itself seems to be seperate from the metal wrap-around cover which is held in place by four little tabs on the bottom of the pump.
Can the cover be removed completely rather than remove/grind off the original wings?
You were number 2.
There's still one left.
GSPD750
15-01-06, 11:06 AM
Technical query No 2.
Can the cover be removed completely rather than remove/grind off the original wings?
Good question. If you bend or break those tabs off you may not be able
to put it back together properly. You may also expose the solid state circuits to the elements.
If you do decide to disect it...take some pics. I'd like to see what makes it
tick. :lol:
ive just had a good look at the pump and i wouldnt advise taking it apart if you look closely at the seems round the bottom it looks like its sealed in with some sort of paste :shock: im going to stick wth cutting of the tabs :)
they must put that case on for a good reason :?
Yeah I noticed some sort of sealant or stuff around the seams too.
I'll be doing it the er......traditional way then and removing the tabs. :)
Last one gone.
Will be sorting out some more.
Tornado
20-01-06, 11:36 PM
:D thanks DaveS got mine ok :D
GSPD750
21-01-06, 10:32 PM
Here's a good side view shot of the Facet. I posted this pic on another thread for the cap thingy but thought this pic may interest the guys doing the Facet installation.
Clik on to expand...
http://gspd750.smugmug.com/photos/53295169-O.jpg
yep must get my arse into gear and get mine done thanks for the pic and reminder :oops: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Right then struck another deal to keep the supply going so if anyone wants one then order away and I can stil supply them.
Link is at the top....... under Shop.
Dilbert
04-02-06, 11:29 AM
Ordered, will be interesting to see how well it works on my RD03, the OEM pump still works, but it has its "moments" :?
Received, will pass it on to Merlin Motorsport to get it shipped directly to you.
Here's a good side view shot of the Facet. I posted this pic on another thread for the cap thingy but thought this pic may interest the guys doing the Facet installation.
Clik on to expand...
http://gspd750.smugmug.com/photos/53295169-O.jpg
Yeah, a useful good pic Wayne as it shows the routing of the fuel line as I imagined it.
Another question: I've removed the original fuel pump and cut the wiring and so am ready to fit the Facet now. How did you wire up the Facet?
GSPD750
05-02-06, 09:36 PM
Another question: I've removed the original fuel pump and cut the wiring and so am ready to fit the Facet now. How did you wire up the Facet?
Having left the old wiring 'installed' your job is that much easier. Connect the red wire (+ power) from the Facet to the blue/black (+ power) of the origional wiring. Connect the white wire (- ground) from the Facet to the green (- ground) of the origional wiring.
Your choice of a butt splice is optional. Crimp, spade or solder the connection. I prefer to slide some heat shrink tubing over the
wires before crimping.
You should have plenty of wire to play with for a simple crimp connector.
Fold up any excess and tie wrap it out of the way.
note origional pump wiring:
green wire - ground
blue/black wire + power
Check the Haynes manual wiring diagram if you have any doubt.
Cheers mate.
That confirms really my intended manner of fitting the Facet.
GSPD750
05-02-06, 09:56 PM
Just curious. Has anyone besides me attempted to fit the origonal rubber shock mount onto thier new Facet pump yet. How did it go? :shock:
It can be a struggle....I know.
im gonna give it a go i'll let you know how i get on after much cussing :lol: :cry: :lol: :lol:
Yeah me. And I did wonder as to how you did it!
I've had to order a new rubber sleeve as the orignal one has split where it attaches onto the mounting lugs though I think it was slightly split before.
You've proven it can be done and I reckon I'll do it too but it was way tighter that I expected.
GSPD750
06-02-06, 07:28 PM
Yeah, if its not in good shape already it will be sure to split.
I've mentioned this before, but you can try heating it and applying
some lube to the inside. Don't get any on your hands or you may lose the grip. Also make sure any sharp edges are smooth after cutting the mounts off. All the best....
GSPD750
06-02-06, 07:42 PM
I've attached a pic again which you can expand. As you can see the slots that push into the mounts on the frame are not totally 'sqaure' to the pump. That is why you have to slightly bend the supports on the frame before you will be able to slide it on.
http://gspd750.smugmug.com/photos/33806334-O.jpg
I've attached a pic again which you can expand. As you can see the slots that push into the mounts on the frame are not totally 'sqaure' to the pump. That is why you have to slightly bend the supports on the frame before you will be able to slide it on.
http://gspd750.smugmug.com/photos/33806334-O.jpg
dude you've got the worlds first GIMP :shock: fuel pump :lol: :lol:
but mine likes the look so im going to give it a go :D
meet gimp fuel pump no 2 :shock:
http://www.xrv.org.uk/getimage.php?id=1713
all fitted now and running smoothly :D
wow that rubber was tight my metod was to heat it up with a fan heaters smooth some tallow round the inside then apply the BFI method :lol: :lol:
thanks for all the tips it made life a lot easier :notworthy:
lootch67
18-02-06, 08:55 PM
Mine went on very easily - it helps if you've got an extra pair of hand though.
GSPD750
19-02-06, 12:01 AM
meet gimp fuel pump no 2 :shock:
http://www.xrv.org.uk/getimage.php?id=1713
all fitted now and running smoothly :D
http://gspd750.smugmug.com/photos/48110124-M.gif
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