Just to finish this off, after finding these Pioneer Boxes on fleabay.de I made up a bracket and bolted them on, initially the bracket was to swivel at the top for quick release, but I was worried that it might quick release on the Autobahn, so they are now bolted fairly permenantly one of 8 bolts have to be removed then option 1 works again.
the panels were then finished off with alu sheeting, just for the looks,
I just hope they stay on when cornering



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