User Names, sexism, mental health and anything else

[Simon]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Just to add my 10p worth and not get into the venus/Mars debate. THe phoenix comes from when I was off work for a rather long time with clinical depression and associated difficulties like being just plain nuts ( apparently its a medical term ) when I finally pulled back the curtains and climbed out from beneath the duvet I thought its a bright new day and like a phoenix got back in the rat race. Im sorry but you did ask
:P

Well i reackon you're still plain nuts

[Sharribee]

Originally Posted by Whealie

Know what you mean - and glad you rose again.
A mate was off work for a while and I phoned her at home to find out what was wrong. She said she'd lost her marbles but was just starting to find them again. My wife and I still talk about the time my wife was mad (head injury). It's seems to me its only the 'professionals' who refuse to use the terms everyone else uses. Use terms such as nuts, mad or lost their marbles to these people and you get shot down in flames.

no no we use those words just like everyone else, it's just in work we try to be a little more professional in front of our patients

[Oxbone]

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no no we use those words just like everyone else, it's just in work we try to be a little more professional in front of our patients[/quote]


Know what you mean here Mabel..... I work in the NHS and hear the nurses say, "Mr X has D&V"
It would not sound professional to say "Mr X is about to puke his ring up"

[Whealie]

it's just in work we try to be a little more professional

for professional, substitute patronising. I know it's not your fault and that you are told to use this language but it is nonsense.
I recently contacted Mencap to find out what learning disability meant. I still don't know. I know it is not things like cerebal palsy, which is a condition "associated" with learning disability but not a learning disability itself. And I know it is not Dyslexia or Dyspraxia, which are learning difficulties (nor disabilities). And then I remembered that Mencap is short for Mentally Handicapped.
Kids now have Special Needs - what sort of generic twaddle is that? Everyone has special needs, whether they're brighter than everyone else (we have to call that "gifted and talented"), left-handed or better at sports than maths, but now when a kid wants to take the mickey out of another kids for being a bit think they say "Special needs" in the same way we always used to say "Spasmo" or "Spastic", so it has not helped in anyway get rid of the old labels. It has just changed the label. Change the name of Marmite to jam and people will still either love it or hate it. Changing the name does not help at all - it only confuses.

[Sharribee]

Originally Posted by Whealie

for professional, substitute patronising. I know it's not your fault and that you are told to use this language but it is nonsense.

Nope you are wrong sorry wheelie, I quite often refer patients to our mental health division and have to be really careful how it is done. I have to do it with thier permission and many of these are young patients who already think that we don't believe they are in pain. If I said to them look mrs blogs I think your nuts and want to get the psychiatrist to see you then I would achive nothing instead I spend some time talking to them assessing what they need and suggest that the liasion mental health team may be able to help them develop coping strategies to deal better with thier pain until we are able to either find a source or find analgesia that is effective. If I begin by telling them they are nuts then I would lose all trust and the relationship would break down. The fact that the majority of the time I am succesful in getting these patients to work with mental health teams speaks for itself.

I am not told to use any language I make sure that I use language appropriate to my pateints and the situation I am faced with.

[Whealie]

If I begin by telling them they are nuts then I would lose all trust and the relationship would break down. The fact that the majority of the time I am succesful in getting these patients to work with mental health teams speaks for itself.

fair enough. I apologise.

[Whealie]

Sorry just remembered a good euphemism our Essex boys may like.
East Ham.....





(one stop short of Barking)

[Maverick]

Holy crap one thread ranging from usernames, sexism, politics and now mental health

[Oxbone]

Originally Posted by Maverick

Holy cr*p one thread ranging from usernames, sexism, politics and now mental health

Thats bikers for ya' Mav.......

[Taz]

I'm the nuts one round here! It's society that drives me to it.