Petition: untested speed equipment being used on bikes

[icenian]

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/SpeedingFines/

The wording of this petition isn't inspiring, but the sentiment is good. Various people have deomonstrated that laser equipment gives false speed readings on motorcycles, and MCN (brace yourself for a shock...) did some worthwhile investigation that got Them to admit the equipment has never even been tested on bikes!

We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Freeze all
speeding fines levied against motorcyclists until such time
that the Government tests and approves all speed detection
equipment for use specifically on motorcycles.

[z-weiser]

read this and was mulling it over purely from a legal point of view!

if the machines are not accurate on bikes, and the authorities know that they are not accurate on bikes this may provide an avenue for defence if someone is zapped!

i'm not bothered about the people doing 100 in a 70 - that is your lookout but those who are clocked at 35 in a 30 or 78 in a 70 when they are sure they were doing 30 or 70 may have some mileage in th eargument that the devices are wrongly calibrated for bikes or they do not provide accurate readings for bikes.

the courts working as they do it would be touch and go and it is highly unlikely that the courts would like to open a floodgate for all bikers to ride like loonies and not be accountable

but there is an interesting legal point here!

don't generally deal with speeding as it isn't covered by legal aid but if someone is caught it may be an interesting argument to try!

maaaan i need to unplug from work!

[icenian]

i'm not bothered about the people doing 100 in a 70 - that is your lookout but those who are clocked at 35 in a 30 or 78 in a 70 when they are sure they were doing 30 or 70 may have some mileage in th eargument that the devices are wrongly calibrated for bikes or they do not provide accurate readings for bikes.

well since one of these lasers clocked a stationary bike at 40mph, perhaps someone (allegely) doing 100mph on the motorway should have a case?

Dozens of speeding charges have been thrown out of court because cameras used in convictions have been proved inaccurate.

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Dr Michael Clark ... said two types of laser detectors, an LTI 20.20 and a Pro-Laser II, had both been ruled “deficient” but that action by the Home Office was needed to stop their continued use.

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Clark said: “We’ve been winning an awful lot of cases, even on appeal in Crown Court.”

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The court accepted there was a possibility the device had measured the speed of an object reflected in the target vehicle rather than the target vehicle itself, according to Clark. He said: “We were arguing there was a possibility of reflection. The appeal was upheld, and it was a nice, clear judgement. So there you have a case of a device being found to be deficient in some way but nothing much is going to happen. It’s really the Home Office which has to suspend its approval or remove its approval before the floodgates open and everybody gets their money back.”

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/nav?pa...DVICE-AND-TIPS

[z-weiser]

damn those physics cheating high speed stationary objects!

[Chad]

signed

[Mabels Old Man]

Last time I got clocked one of the points I queried was what radar gun was being used. NIP was cancelled.

[Sharribee]

of course it was inaccurate wasn't it MOM, you weren't really speeding were you

[Dilbert]

Signed

[Sharribee]

I signed it too