Are you a DAS motorcycle instructor ????

[Watchman]

Hi

Decided to add another "string to my bow" and become a motorcycle instructor. Both CBT and direct access.

Some extra pennies for bike goodies and trips.

Have booked the course and got all the paperwork.

Any members on this forum that are instructors having gone through the cardington assesment that can give me some advice???

Thanks

[Sharribee]

Well done, how did you go about doing it and how much did it cost, Mr Mabel said last year that he would be interested in doing it

[Slimie]

I'm not but the guy that got me through the test is a regular over on the UKGSer site, his name's Bob Southgate. He works (worked?) through the BMF and with others taught at the weekend.

Good luck

-Simon

[YEN_POWELL]

Hi

Decided to add another "string to my bow" and become a motorcycle instructor. Both CBT and direct access.

Some extra pennies for bike goodies and trips.

Have booked the course and got all the paperwork.

Any members on this forum that are instructors having gone through the cardington assesment that can give me some advice???

Thanks

My advice for the Cardington test would be

a/ Make sure to read the newspaper article on the waiting room wall written at the time the first driving tests were introduced. Mr Chumley Warner says it's so easy even a woman might attempt it.

b/ Get a photo of the hoooooooooge wooden shed that they used to keep hooooooooge airships in

c/ If you get the slip of paper telling you to teach the pretend pupil how to do U-turns, make him do it twice. That way he is facing the same way as you and you won't make an idiot of yourself trying to carry out your own U-turn

d/ Learn what a Pegasus crossing is

e/ Learn the various traffic light sequences (normal signal, pelican etc), I was tested on that and I got in a right knot despite quoting it correctly the first time, the examiner will try and make you change your mind, stick to your guns.

f/ If handed a slip of paper saying something like ' I am **** who has bought a large BMW but have only ridden it on my drive and fall off when applying the brakes', be prepared. If you let him ride, he WILL fall off in front of you. Get him to switch the engine off, demonstrate the way you want him to brake, then push him along with a dead engine and see that he does it correctly.

can't think of anything else now but I'm sure I will.

[Watchman]

Thanks for the advice

Mabel cost is £900 pounds for the 6 day course learning to teach up to CBT standard and then sign off the CBT paerwork.

And a return two day course to learn to teach direct access.

On top of this are the books and the b&b if you dont live near a training centre.

I am lucky as the training centre is about 40 mins away and Cardington test is in Bedford which is a hour away so hopefully I will save a bit of money on the "extras".

YEN_POWELL Got the dommie and a goldwing 1500 would like to do the test on the dommie coz its a bit more manageable than the wing at U turns.
Were the examiners helping you pass or diid they have the attitude of trying to reduce the amount of passes.

A bit nervous as this is the first test I have had in about 25 years!!!!

[Jenna]

were not far from cardington, there was bit of an out cry few years back as all the instructor training videos and all the hazard perception tests were filmed on the local roads making the tests a lot easier if you did it at cardington. when i did the hazard test it was hard not to watch think ooo thats soenso's car.. oh and theres soenso's house. think they now use footage from all over the country though after complaints of it being unfair.

b/ Get a photo of the hoooooooooge wooden shed that they used to keep hooooooooge airships in

they dont make garden sheds like they used too!

[YEN_POWELL]

Thanks for the advice

Mabel cost is £900 pounds for the 6 day course learning to teach up to CBT standard and then sign off the CBT paerwork.

And a return two day course to learn to teach direct access.

On top of this are the books and the b&b if you dont live near a training centre.

I am lucky as the training centre is about 40 mins away and Cardington test is in Bedford which is a hour away so hopefully I will save a bit of money on the "extras".

YEN_POWELL Got the dommie and a goldwing 1500 would like to do the test on the dommie coz its a bit more manageable than the wing at U turns.
Were the examiners helping you pass or diid they have the attitude of trying to reduce the amount of passes.

A bit nervous as this is the first test I have had in about 25 years!!!!

I did my DAS assessment on my Africa Twin. I didn't have to carry out a U-turn thanks to the trick mentioned. I thought the examiners were pretty unbiased either way and seemed to enjoy the play acting. I had to instruct an examiner on cornering tecnique and the bugger shot off up the local roads at about 90-100mph. I had to catch up and order him to slow down over the radio just so I could see him actually corner without a telescope. To be fair, he did everything I told him without further trouble, same with the brakes. See next post for a U-turn story.

Basically, in those days you were given a quick talk then each candidate was handed 4 slips of paper which had different teaching scenarios. I think mine were

a/ The braking item mentioned in the previous post
b/ The cornering
c/ U-turns
d/ Traffic light sequences

At that time, no one where I worked as aCBT instructor, had the slightest idea what the assessment consisted of, so I had no preparation. It was disconcerting that after every exercise the examiner took out a dictaphone, turned his back and muttered about me for a few minutes. This ended up as a written report which was so good that I think I was sent someone elses. The one thing I was criticised for was along the lines of

'Some instructor credibility was lost when the candidate did not seem convinced of his own explanation of traffic light sequences.' As I design and put in signals as part of my job this was pretty embarrassing .

[YEN_POWELL]

I was sharing my assessor with a welsh lad on a CBR600. When he had to sort out the assesors U-turn problem I nearly wet myself laughing. The pretend trainee, on a large fairinged BMW twin (1100RT?)proceeded to do a U-turn in a road next to a bus stop (not a good place to do it I'm sure you'll agree, but he chose the spot). Instead of completing the U-turn in the carriageway, he carried on up the kerb, around the bus shelter and back into the road. As I said, they seemed to enjoy playing the hapless pupil.