Biker First Aid - Southern Group - Important

[alpslapper]

I've started another thread because the original thread is being taken in a different direction.

Please read this very carefully - it is important.

I've had an email back from Alick Wheeler. The venue in Slough is available for the 12th of January and he has provisionally booked it on our behalf.

However, to keep the date and the venue he must confirm the booking asap.


THIS MEANS WE HAVE TO PAY UP.

I am happy to go ahead and make the booking and pay up front and people can setle up with me on the day.

NOW READ THIS NEXT BIT CAREFULLY PLEASE::::::::::::

This means if you have booked, and your name is on the calender to attend, I WILL be expecting you to pay your share, unless you can get someone else to take your place.

We can accommodate 12 people. So far we have 6 bookings.

Alick has said if we have places spare he can try and get TVAM to make up the numbers to 12, thereby keeping the costs to £30 each.

I would like to book up on our behalf by the end of next week.

So please get your name down if your interested and make sure the date suits as once booked you will have to pay your share unless you can get someone else to attend.

As the course is for 12, if we dont get 12 xrvers he'll try and get the vacant posts filled by TVAM (Thames Valley Advance Motorcyclists) to keep the cost down to £30 per person.

Ive attached some more info:]

Emergency First Aid for
Road Users and Motorcyclists.
The course: This course, is designed to teach motorcyclists
(and other road users) how to approach and deal with a serious
accident, possibly while on their own and without the luxury of
a large First Aid kit.
Who should attend: Any individual motorcycle riders or members of Motorcycle Clubs or groups, Motorcycle Instructors and anyone who regularly rides as a pillion passenger.


Duration: The course is normally run over 1 day
Course contents:
Accident scene assessment and management Basic (and multiple) casualty assessment
Recognition and treatment of unconsciousness Adult resuscitation (CPR)
Treatment of minor and serious bleeding and shock Management of suspected spinal injuries
Removal of crash helmets
Certification: Students receive a certificate of attendance on completion of the course.
Course venue: Courses are run throughout the Thames Valley area, for groups and individuals as demand requires. Please contact our training office for details of courses in your area.


First Aid Kits for Road Users.

We have a number of
First Aid kits especially designed
for car and commercial vehicle
users as well as motorcyclists.
Please call us on 01628 663722
for prices and availabilty.

[alpslapper]

Here's a copy of a magazine article Aline Associates featured in:

Would You? – Could You?

GNATs – Emergency First Aid for Motorcyclists – Training with Aline Associates.
"You are a Mad Fool, lets hope you don’t need any first aid when you get there"
These were the words of my Wife Julie as I left home at 7am, to ride 25 miles to Benson to meet some fellow GNATs, to travel to a First Aid course in Taplow (15 minutes from where I live in Wycombe!). I decided that a non-biker just wouldn’t understand the complexities of my logic, so spared her the explanation.
Got all my bike kit on, jumped on the Divvy, hit the button and instantly found the first casualty of the day – there was a response but it was just a click! Told myself not to panic and went about checking the vital signs. Decided that all the electrics were functioning fine so diagnosed starter motor problems. Put the bike in second, rocked back and forth, hit the starter button – Bingo, I had bought the bike back to life!
On reflection I realised that taking time to step back & think about the cause of the problem had solved it a lot quicker than panicking and wading in with my boots and a hammer, probably making the problem worse in the long run. This theory was thoroughly re-enforced later during the First Aid course.
Having met Daf, Mike, Chris and Bob at Benson, Mike led us to Henley, riding his blade in an extremely progressive manor! The weather conditions were perfect for riding and we were to spend the day in a Women’s Institute hall, and we were paying for the pleasure!
After a welcoming cup of tea, our trainer Alick Wheeler introduced himself and his two able assistants Jane and Al (who later decided she was called Prunella!). Transpires that they are bikers too, and we were Guinea Pigs for their new "Emergency First Aid for Motorcyclists" course.
We were given a startling statistic about causes of death in road accidents; apparently up to 75% are caused by blocked airways, normally obstructed by the tongue. I had a vision of fishing around in someone’s gullet for a missing tongue, but not necessary according to Alick. Just the movement of tilting back the head is often enough to clear the obstruction and save a life. At this point I could have left and already been happy that I had my moneys worth
The order of the day was PRIORITY – Firstly you find a casualty lying in the road and you must remember that the first priority is your own personal safety. Next you need to prioritise the checks you are doing on that person and the resulting actions you take. This was summarised in a way that I now have planted in my mind: DR ABC.





D – Danger – Make sure that you or the casualty are not in any further danger.
R – Response – Find out if they are conscious, if not check:
A – Airway – Is there anything blocking the airway (often the tongue)
B – Breathing – Check by looking, listening, and feeling to see if they are breathing.
C – Circulation – is blood reaching their extremities?
These are the essential rules for helping a casualty by the roadside, the order you carry them out in is also very important.
The word priority came up again when we were taught how to recognise who needs looking at first, in the multiple casualty situation – the bloke screaming and hollering is the last one you need to check up on apparently, it’s the quiet ones you have to watch!
DR ABC was the basis of the whole day, the emphasis was purely on life saving and preservation rather than the treatment of broken bones and other ailments, "even the paramedics can’t treat broken bones" Alick told us.
We were also shown how to recognise and treat shock, which can appear at any time, the treatment can be far more effective if you recognise the signs early on. Shock and bleeding were added to DR ABC as potentially life threatening conditions that do need priority treatment at the roadside, whilst awaiting assistance.
The lecture was nicely broken up with practical sessions through the day including how to carry out the DR ABC checks, put casualties in the recovery position, and how to stem life threatening bleeding. We also learnt how to maintain circulation by chest compression and mouth to mouth, using the excellent dummies they supplied. "You need to get a good seal over the whole mouth" said Alick; I have to confess to wondering how on earth anyone would manage if it were Cherie Blair lying there!
The final part of the day was the motorcyclist’s favourite – Helmet Removal. Very little emphasis was placed on the debate as to whether you should or shouldn’t do it. I think that based on what we had learnt so far, we realised that it is a necessity if the casualty is not breathing, or has an obstructed airway.
As a few of us practiced the art of helmet removal on the dummies I couldn’t help but wonder how much stress it actually puts the body through. I decided the only way to find out would be to prostitute myself as a live model. Pete Dalgliesh and Ian Dickinson did a great job of keeping my head and neck supported whilst they did battle with my Shoei. I think they came to the conclusion that it was a lot harder than they expected on a real (ish) person. The good news is that my ears seem to have gone back to their original shape now!
The days training seemed to come to an end all too quickly, which is always a good sign of a good course.
I have been on intensive half -day First Aid courses before and have left feeling rather overloaded with information and wondering if I would remember the important bits. I think Alick and co. have taken this problem on board, and removed all the frilly bits, leaving on the syllabus the bits that really count. This is the same principal we were taught at TVAM TOB induction about debriefing Associates. Phil Wood called it the "Building Blocks Principal" – if you talk about the really important bits then add more and more less relevant points, the important bits eventually get knocked off the shelf.
I don’t know if it was anything to do with the thought provoking accident slides we were shown, or whether I was scared of the irony of ditching my bike on the way home from a First Aid course, but I rode home slowly and thought hard about all I had learnt, hoping that it will stay somewhere in my mind in case I ever need it.
Now if someone asked me the question: "Could You? Would You?" I could reply with confidence that I would at least give it my best shot.
After all one day that could be me lying there unconscious in the road relying on my colleagues to keep me alive. I will now feel confident that if I come a cropper whilst out riding with the GNATs team, there would be plenty of people with the knowledge to try and help me out, form an orderly queue please ………….
Our team Leader Louise asked us to write a bit about our day in case any of the other teams decide they would benefit by organising a First Aid session of their own. I would be happy to add my name to the list of GNATs that are very glad that they invested their time and money to gain this knowledge. I am sure we would all recommend Alick and his colleagues at Aline Associates as an excellent source.
Ride Safely


Dave Pascoe

[Steve C]

Alp - I'm probably having a daft and blind moment but I can't see the cost anywhere in there... how much is the day brother?

[Lumiya]

He's stated a few times, £30 if all 12 places are filled or obviously £60 is 6 places or £45 if 9 places are filled

Kymmy

PS..thread stickied in case no-one notices, but please let us know when it's not needed otherwise the forum gets clogged up with stickies

[alpslapper]

He's stated a few times, £30 if all 12 places are filled or obviously £60 is 6 places or £45 if 9 places are filled

Kymmy

PS..thread stickied in case no-one notices, but please let us know when it's not needed otherwise the forum gets clogged up with stickies

Thanks kymmy - Steve my brother, the cost of the day is 350 quid divided by the number attending. See Calender and previous thread.

[Lord Vader]

yep i am still up for that.
Alp how and when do you want the money
I have been sadly way to many times been first on scene and every time i tell myself to get into gear and improve my first aid skills

[alpslapper]

yep i am still up for that.
Alp how and when do you want the money
I have been sadly way to many times been first on scene and every time i tell myself to get into gear and improve my first aid skills

Settle up with me on the day your Lordship

[stanbloke]

I'm in .

Pm me with the addy for the chq.

[Whealie]

I'm up for it. Seriously though Alp, get cheques off us now (or give me your bank details and I'll transfer the money - having just lost my chequebook tonight and had to phone the bank to cancel it).
There's nothing like having paid to make sure you attend.
me and Chad may still do a ride to Wales after, if anyone else is interested (but see the other thread)

[Chad]

I'm up for it. Seriously though Alp, get cheques off us now (or give me your bank details and I'll transfer the money - having just lost my chequebook tonight and had to phone the bank to cancel it).
There's nothing like having paid to make sure you attend.
me and Chad may still do a ride to Wales after, if anyone else is interested (but see the other thread)

still up for this but wifeys got somthing up her sleve for that evening but wont tell me what it is so we will have to make our wales run another weekend chris