Witnessed a road accident today....

[ukTiffy]

I would doubt this was cause by transmission wind-up as I didn't think the Freelander had a diff-lock. Sounds more like clipping the curb at speed, but not above 30mph - honest officer.

[stageonesimmo]

Free-loaders have a viscous coupling which splits drive 60/40 front/rear much the same as most most 'car' style 4X4s and totally different to most, (older) Landrover products. Discount wind-up as a cause as it usually results in the loss of traction on one wheel only due to such daft stuff as drive shaft length, but - dont be so quick to damn folk - physics and mother nature are fickle girls - free loaders are front heavy as with most modern vehicles and a 'panic-stab' at the brakes at just the wrong moment can cause enough wieght transfer immediatley prior to an imapct with a low object to cause enough of a pitch motion that a loop results on impact as the back end is sufficiently un-weighted already.

Just a good job that everyone got out regardless of what/who caused it............

[Waiting for some real physisists to flame me..........]

[alpslapper]

No flame here, all very plausable, but looking at that stretch of the n59, lovely long straight road, little to no traffic, bright sunny day, Im still betting she was going a smidgen over the posted 30 limit, specially as the road seems to be a national limit up to the village looking at the map. I'll go further and bet the last malteser she might even have been doing a smidgen over the 60 limit in the national (or whatever it is in kph)

Free-loaders have a viscous coupling which splits drive 60/40 front/rear much the same as most most 'car' style 4X4s and totally different to most, (older) Landrover products. Discount wind-up as a cause as it usually results in the loss of traction on one wheel only due to such daft stuff as drive shaft length, but - dont be so quick to damn folk - physics and mother nature are fickle girls - free loaders are front heavy as with most modern vehicles and a 'panic-stab' at the brakes at just the wrong moment can cause enough wieght transfer immediatley prior to an imapct with a low object to cause enough of a pitch motion that a loop results on impact as the back end is sufficiently un-weighted already.

Just a good job that everyone got out regardless of what/who caused it............

[Waiting for some real physisists to flame me..........]

[Traveller]

Could it have been caused by a puncture? Or was it a swerve to avoid an animal? Answering a phone or texting?

[Mabels Old Man]

Babies in child seats are a prime cause for distracting a driver. As for the speed who knows.

yeh !!when will the governments fit as std recordable tachos like we have in lorries won`t cost much and save the trouble of finding out what really happened.

All it takes is everyone to swap there driving licence for a new one with chip and pin inserted to record details pf driving/rest periods.


Russ

You cannot be serious. Another nail in the drivers coffin.

[Lutin]

...but looking at that stretch of the n59, lovely long straight road, little to no traffic, bright sunny day, Im still betting she was going a smidgen over the posted 30 limit, specially as the road seems to be a national limit up to the village looking at the map. I'll go further and bet the last malteser she might even have been doing a smidgen over the 60 limit in the national (or whatever it is in kph)

Google Earth, strikes again eh? Yep, the speed limit is 30 mph (actually 50 kph) until after the petrol station on the left as you leave the village. No other vehicles involved, no animals as far as I am aware, road dry, clear, bright, sunny afternoon.



In the picture, the Freelander was travelling northwest, and I was coming in the opposite direction.

So, why the Freelander swerved right across the road and hit the low wall, that is some way off the road again, is anyone's guess.

However, I'm fairly sure the guy in the silver SUV that I followed into the village was on his phone. I'd been behind him for about two miles and during the course of a conversation he said he only noticed me as we entered the village! He then went on to ask me what I saw!!! He had a better view than I did!!

[Bluff]

About 25 years ago I clipped a nearside kerb on a 40mph link road, I couldn't hold the wheel and the car swept across te road, across the next kerb and up an old railway embankment. It conitinued along this grassy area for a further 10m or so before I could bring the car back down. I had ripped off the front bumper, buckled all four wheels and burst all the tyres. To this day I cannot believe the vehicle didn't roll.

What caused it? I was fiddling with the radio, I had one hand on the wheel and no eyes on the road.

Nobody was hurt including me but my 6 month old car was looking a sorry mess. I learned a huuuuuge lesson that day.

[stageonesimmo]

Like I said - physics is fickle - I came round an innocuous corner near home one day to be greeted by a Vauxhall astra on its roof! How the hell it happened is anyone's guess but the only thing I could see was the verge has a small rise to it as it meets the hedge and it may have acted like a ramp and tossed the car over but its about 6" high, soft and on a bend thats 90 dergees and blind so you physicaly cant take it more than 20 MPH so 20 MPH and 6" soft earth bump = an astra on its roof - mad, but it happened!...........

[StumpyFingers]

In my younger days I was driving a bit fast and clipped a kerb and burst the front tyre.
I was still able to stop safely without injury or loss of control.

[Buggles]

I came across this situation on my way home from work in the Netherlands a while back:



I'm driving on the on-ramp for the motorway, to my left is the road leading off the motorway...

The marks in the grass went from the motorway, at a 90 degree angle to the direction of traffic, across the off ramp, and across the on-ramp...

To this day, I'm completely baffled by how that happened, it's almost like the car turned right on the motorway and flipped across 3 lanes of traffic...

Just glad it didn't happen whilst I was crossing...

Cars do weird things when they hit something, even the smallest thing...

I still vividly remember the car spinning off the road in front of me whilst riding through Ireland on TLD09...

JB