Twin carbs on some big singles ..why?



+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 6 of 6

Thread: Twin carbs on some big singles ..why?

  1. #1
    willywombat64 is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    exeter uk
    Posts
    240
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts

    Twin carbs on some big singles ..why?

    Only recently became aware that some bikes like the Xt600 ran twin carbs . just wondered what was the reasoning behind this added complexity /cost/bulk when many big singles work fine on just one . Could someone explain in simple terms please .
    thanks
    Bill

  2. Remove Advertisements
    XRV.org.uk
    Advertisements
     

  3. #2
    Joe Crow's Avatar
    Joe Crow is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Northern Ireland
    Posts
    251
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts

    Re: Twin carbs on some big singles ..why?

    Hi Bill

    I had an old XT500 (and my dad had an SR500) both of which ran just fine on traditional single 'slider' carbs, and I was surprised when the simply gorgeous SRX600 was released with twin carbs: one 'slider' plus one 'CV' vacuum carb.

    I remember reading something about the different characteristics of the two types of carb balancing out engine response/performance from tickover through the midrange etc.?

    Not a particularly scientific answer, but your post struck a chord...

    Joe

    p.s. another interesting point: my Enfield Bullet 500 carries an exact copy of the carb which I used to have on a TS250 Suzuki (Mikarb/Mikuni VM28 )

  4. #3
    Paul-S's Avatar
    Paul-S is offline OVALTEENY !!!
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Runcorn, Cheshire
    Posts
    4,041
    Thanks
    118
    Thanked 158 Times in 140 Posts

    Re: Twin carbs on some big singles ..why?

    A mate has an XT600 and most of the time it runs on 1 carb unless he's on a pace and gassing it - he gets around 57-60 when easy riding but this can drop to 30 sih when he gasses it and the 2nd carb kicks in

    02 RD07a RWB, Powerbronze tall screen, Remus Grand Prix, TT crash bars, TT pannier frame, Zega style panniers, Alpos top box,TT bar risers, TT headlamp guard, Heated grips, mainstand, Heidenau K60s for road and light offroad, TKC80s for the dirty stuff, Scottoiler, Autocomm, TT Zumo mount, Zumo 550 and most of all A BIG GRIN !!! Oh, and a very nice RD04 HRC coloured Marathon Replica


  5. #4
    Kjell Lindberg is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    -
    Posts
    2,436
    Thanks
    94
    Thanked 83 Times in 65 Posts

    Re: Twin carbs on some big singles ..why?

    There could be many reasosn as to why some singles have dual carbs.

    One reason is space, one big carb would not fit, but two smaller ones will.


    Another reason is that carbs usually loves high flowspeeds, and one big carb, will have to cope with low flow speed at low engine rpm.
    (Since a big carb has a large diameter throat, the flow speed is lower in comparision to a small carb, given the same volyme of gas is passing through them both).
    Using two carbs, configurated in that way as one carb is taking care of low engine rpm, and the other takes command at higher rpm could be another reason.

    I will not enter the" minefield" of >should I exchange my dual set up for a single set up<, sufficient to say, a dual set up, is normally requiring more service and tuning to give their best, but when properly set up, they usually performes better in comparision to a single set up.
    The same applies to cars, were doubble barrel webers/dellortos/solex usually performes much better than one huge single carb.
    I know there were US cars that used to run on one huge single carb, but at least they had two or four barrels within that carb body, and many times the carb were set up to
    open the secon barrel (or third + fourth barrles) on higher rpms, just to get rid of problems connected with large diameter chokes/barrels at lower engine speeds.

    Today, fuelinjection has solved most of the problems connected to big singles and carburation.
    Last edited by Kjell Lindberg; 02-10-11 at 10:39 AM.

  6. #5
    Royce Cochran is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Arlington, Texas USA
    Posts
    8
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Twin carbs on some big singles ..why?

    Yup, had a '65 Pontiac GTO 389 cu.in. and a '68 Dodge Charger R/T 440 Magnum 375 hp. Big 4 barrel carbs. Lots of fun!!! Back then gas was cheep over here. Also had a '84 XL350 with dual carbs(a real pain to rejet for altitude) just figured it was Honda's typical over engineering.

  7. #6
    Rubberchicken's Avatar
    Rubberchicken is offline Bloody furriner
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Amsterdam
    Posts
    4,399
    Thanks
    4
    Thanked 99 Times in 85 Posts

    Re: Twin carbs on some big singles ..why?

    Indeed as Kjell said, the CV carb is for regular low to midrange use and the other one is an accelerator.
    Michel -- '92 R100GS PD -- Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, don't fail me now!

+ Reply to Thread

Similar Threads

  1. When my Carbs are OUT, my carbs are IN!
    By darthDassie in forum Africa Twin
    Replies: 23
    Last Post: 15-11-11, 01:39 PM
  2. Replies: 19
    Last Post: 29-03-11, 08:23 AM
  3. carbs
    By big bad bob in forum Yamaha
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 14-06-10, 01:04 PM
  4. Twin Carbs
    By chiefdruid in forum XR
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 11-01-08, 09:10 AM
  5. Are my carbs on right?
    By KTiM in forum Africa Twin
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 25-01-07, 06:20 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts