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    Oz - Condo 750 Rallye 07

    just realised I hadnt posted this from April, the Condo 750 is a 2 day cross country nav race like a mini Dakar / Oz Safari

    About 6 Oz Advriders took on the Condo 750

    http://www.condo750.com.au/

    A 2 day cross country rally like a baby Dakar / Oz Safari, we'd also organised a gettogether for Advriders to support the racers and have a gettogether. it was an excellent weekend and Im sure there will be many stories and photos added to this report as the days go bye.
    About 8 of us met up and headed west from Sydney over the mountains to hit the dirt roads to Condobolin




    A few dramas on the way, my visor broke, johnC dropped his transalp and James had 2 puntures on the Ulysses


    RJF's 640 ready to compete


    Spock's 525


    Will DR640 and Bill 97 640 rallye


    Burren rider and his DRZ


    GTinaus bush mechanicing


    preparing your route sheets




    Loading the route sheets on friday night before the sart on sat


    As well as bikes, cars compete at Condo, the bikes & cars do seperate legs on sat and then swap on sunday, some pretty trick beasties were there.






    A few of the Advrider support crew












    Will & Bill had the best looking Advrider pit crew !!


    A few bikes
    Team honda CRF450


    Another CRF


    XR650


    Husaberg hassles


    Spock route sheeting & preparing




    Servicing RJF




    Billblat at one of the service stops


    End of day 1






    I think Will & the DR were happy to get to the end of the day


    GTinAUS hit a huge rock , bent the rim & destoryed the tyre & rode the last 50km to the lunch service on day 1 , then tried to fix it Oz style before carrying on.




    The lunch service on both days was at a little settlement called Fifield, interesting pub

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    Re: Oz - Condo 750 Rallye 07

    looks like a great rally! What classes are there.. when i get back to Aus i want to start doing that kinda thing.. but I would really want to use my xtz.. and that would not be competitive with the likes of the KTM..

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    Re: Oz - Condo 750 Rallye 07

    I also have to say Bloody great pics there mate.. well done...

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    Re: Oz - Condo 750 Rallye 07

    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    looks like a great rally! What classes are there.. when i get back to Aus i want to start doing that kinda thing.. but I would really want to use my xtz.. and that would not be competitive with the likes of the KTM..
    Xander, the Condo 750 is a RELATIVELY cheap and easy way to get a taste of the Dakar / oz safari experience. You could finish on the XTZ, it would be hard work but fun. I competed in it in 93 on my transalp and finished but boy was it hard.



    Anyway you wouldn't be competeing for the win haha... so it doesn't matter if your bikes not competitive. When are you coming over ??? Condo is run every easter and I'll be out there again next year, mechanicing / supporting the Oz Advrider competitors, come out with us and have a look and see if its to your taste. I have some vague idea of having a go at it again on the AT but I seem to have got a bit more conservative as ive got older and Im not sure if i want to put the old girl through it though i didn't think twice about doing it to my transalp in 93.

    BTW here's my report on the 06 Condo750

    Oz - Condo Cross Country Rallye

    oh well it's midnight here, better go to bed so i can get up for work tomorrow. Got a 4 day weekend trip coming up, 2000km to escape the sydney apec madness, ride report next week.

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    Re: Oz - Condo 750 Rallye 07

    It does sound great.. I am not quite sure when I'll be back.. This contact may end in a week or in two years and they still have not given me any news yet.. But my poor XtZ is still sitting in a shed in East Gippy.. When i am back.. I think I 'll jump in (right after i put a different set of shocks on the XTZ and maybe a plastic tank.. )

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    Re: Oz - Condo 750 Rallye 07

    Here's some posts from a few 1st time Condo competitors for your info Xander.

    Bill - 97 640 rallye

    I guess that the best way to some up my experience of the Condo is most probably to explain how I feel now. 4 days after it all finished ...
    I am as ... flat ... as ... a ... pancake. Totally unmotivated and just generally disenchanted with it all !!
    But no surprises there ... What do you expect after such an AWESOME weekend ?
    Just over a year ago, I got a call from a mate who I hadn't seen or spoken to for a good couple of years. Well I say 'mate', but to be perfectly honest it's rather difficult to convince yourself of a life-long friendship when it's based on a mutual interest/perversion for old Land Rovers ... but alas ...
    The conversation ended in the realisation that we were both newcomers to this whole fandangled 'dirt-biking' thing !! At last ... I had a riding buddy to roost ... (-ish) ...
    That bloke is Will Wilkins (aka Dr Topbox) ... and now he's gone and bust his ankle cos we were both chasing a mutual dream :kurt
    ... and (more importantly) I've no longer got anyone to go riding with !! ...
    Which is especially frustrating after I really started to get into this whole 'wide-open-spaces-with-no-one-coming-the-other-way-so-you-can-really-fang-it' idea ...
    Bugger !!
    (- If you read between the lines, there IS some sympathy in there, Will. Promise !!) :augie
    Oh yeah ... I was meant to be sharing some of my experiences (and thoughts) about the weekend. Profuse apologies for my continued ineptness ...
    Where was I ? Oh yes. Self-pity. Moving on swiftly ...
    Will's already mentioned that he's not overly competitive. Me neither. Luckily. But that said, I'm bloody chuffed with how the weekend panned out.
    Unfortunately I really can't take much (if any) of the credit ...
    #46. YOU BEAUTY. Whilst the bike isn't exactly a spring chicken (- are any of us ?), it was an absolute trooper all weekend. When it wants to go (- Don't even go there, Will !) it just goes ... and goes ... and ... goes. Last weekend the planets were all in the right places and - just as importantly - so were all the wires and connectors (!) ... Boy did we have fun together ... !!
    I'm still very much on the steep part of 'that' learning curve that you will all have been through (- albeit inevitably at a younger age than I) ... and I guess I'm fortunate enough to have a bike that can not only pull me out of the sh!t (- and believe you me, there was plenty to go round) but will happily take the resultant knocks on it's proverbial chin (- not like it's "human" or anything ... !!)
    I own an absolute beast. Undoubtedly great for this sort of 'jaunt' in it's day, but now very much wallowing in the dust (- has anyone mentioned the dust yet ?) of bikes boasting considerably less weight - and fuel consumption - with much - if not more ! - power but ...
    Boy does it take the hits like a Nova FM listener ... over and over and over again. No complaints.
    The Saturday dawned with glorious weather. The jacket was very quickly jettisoned before we'd even lined up to start. And all my pre-conceptions went with it.
    I will openly admit that I got pretty emotional after I was finally waved away from the startline. It suddenly dawned on me that 6 months of (intense) planning and preparation had finally come to fruition. Those 6 months had condensed a lifetime of anticipation for participating in an event like this (- the fact that I'd originally wanted to do it in a car, and thought that the bike riders were just crazy idiots is totally irrelevant at this juncture !!) ... and it didn't help that the last thing I saw was the tears in my girlfriend's eyes as I pulled away ... Even though I knew that they were merely a reflection of my absolute joy of being where I was. Finally.
    A few stern (and very loud) words with myself, and I was as pumped as Coober Pedy hooker ...
    Starting mid-field on your first race ever is daunting enough, believe you me. But those fears were soon washed away by the 'gentle showers' of rocks and sand so lovingly 'administered' by those randomly seeded behind me, as they effortlessly glided past me on their continued charge forward. (- The relative speeds blew me away throughout the weekend !)
    I don't recall the moment that it all came together, but I do know that it wasn't very long before I really felt 'in my place'. I couldn't surpass the feeling that this was where I belonged. It was lucky that I was wearing a helmet because the perpetual grin could easily have split my head in two !!
    The tight, rocky stuff was easy-peasy. Pretty well what we've been doing since I first 'kicked on the left' and donned a pair of leather boots (- does that sound right ?). Loved it, and just lapped it up.
    The fast stuff just needs confidence. Confidence in your navigation - after all it's bloody pointless caning it down a fence line for 8 k's only to realise that the turn through the gate was at 3 !! Confidence in your steed, because no matter how well you can read the lie of the land, something will jump out and put you off line. Even just a little bit. But even on a 10 acre paddock, a little bit can be the difference between end of stage and puncture. Let along getting intimate with a large piece of wood. Living or ready-for-the-fire, it's still gonna hurt.
    In contrast to the rigours and variety of Day 1, the only time I felt unstable was in the horrendous (- and I don't use that word lightly) bulldust early on Day 2. I had no concept of 'powering through it', and soon realised that it was very fine line between slowing down (and risking the back rapidly trying to make out with the front), or growing copious glands between my legs and just twisting rightie until the powder was gone. I soon realised that the latter comes with time ... and experience. Unfortunately for me, one day wasn't enough for either. But rest assured that I am now on a mission to do as much as I can to gain a little more 'self-respect' in that powdery stuff ... that is where it will make a difference in an event like Condo.
    As for what I'd do differently, I'll probably invest in a steering damper. The best you can afford. No matter which way you look at it, it's gotta help to reduce the inevitable fatigue of (even momentarily) wrestling with 180kgs of glorified oil tanker when things suddenly get a little 'soft' under rubber.
    And speaking of rubber, I'd definitely go a little more agressive than the Michelin Baja that I had on on Day 1, or the MT21 on Day 2 (- slow puncture 'just' as I arrived into the oval !!) God bless having a spare, tyred wheel with me. God bless cush-drive hubs for ease of change-over. Woo-hoo. More time for road-book mark-up ...
    And speaking of roadbooks. Electronic is DEFINITELY the way to go. Without a shadow of a doubt, the ability to keep both hands firmly gripped to the bars AND still move the map forwards (and/or quite often backwards, as in my case) is invaluable. You can practise your map-reading/distance estimations etc etc as much as you want, but it's no bloody use if you can't keep up with the precious instructions !!
    ... And no matter what people tell you about it being 'easier' to navigate on Day 2 ("... because the cars leave a pretty obvious trail") ... BOLLOCKS. By the time you've got back out into the 'open' stuff (- nav is generally easier in the tight. Less options), had a drink, checked you're in the right place on the map etc etc, a HTS (= 'Hard to see' junction) jumps (or more like doesn't) out at you. Unfortunately you're still taking the 'obvious' trail that continues to fall beneath your wheels ... fully confident in it as opposed to your own navigational skills or instinct. And then it stops dead. Greeeaaaaat. (- Remember bikes don't have reverse, but cars obviously do !)
    But top, top, top of my list. HAVE FUN. AND DON'T FORGET (to have fun)
    I had a lot of fun.
    And I'll be back. #44 out of 58 (- can't really count KLXChris. Sorry. Hope your recovery is rapid and painless) ain't bad. But I 'think' ... with a little bit more practise ... I can do better. I know the bike can ...
    And finally ... Thanks to the best looking pit crew that was that side of Bogans Gate last weekend. Awesome job :thumb
    Looking forwards. Would love to catch up with everyone again BEFORE next easter. Have a think about it ...

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    Re: Oz - Condo 750 Rallye 07

    A Gumbies Guide to the Condo 750 Rally


    The Condo 750 has always been an elusive goal of mine. I went for a bit of a look in 1996 (even ended up doing a control point which was great) and I was so overawed by the sheer speed of the front runners that it took 10 years to build up the courage to have a crack at it.
    Three months ago I finally decided to bite the bullet and figured I had to get fit (well fitter). The skipping rope came out of retirement, the push bike tyres got pumped up and soon enough the side effects of an office job and my wife’s excellent cooking started to diminish. Starting from a lowly benchmark always makes it easy to see progress.
    Getting the bike organised was considerably easier. The 400 is still running perfectly despite 2 years and 15,000km’s of trail riding but as a precaution, I dropped it over to Mark Carter, motorcycle mechanic extraordinaire, who gave it a once over and declared it fit to race (or at least to poke around at the back of the pack). I slapped a couple of stickers on from my accounting business, to make it look like I was a sponsored rider, when in actual fact the only person silly enough to pay my way was me.
    Mounting the required navigation gear was a bit of a challenge, but the time spent in the shed was enjoyable, I have always wanted to set up a rally bike so here was my opportunity. TK graciously lent me his MD Roller and Rod produced an ICO from the depths of his shed so I had the makings of a setup that was considerably quicker than the rider. The MD needed a bit of work but parts were readily available from Vince Strang and before I knew it, the maps went forward and back at the flick of a switch on the left bar, bloody magic.
    In the week leading up to the race, I took on as much advice as I could from those that had competed in these types of events and set about loading the bike and as many spares as I could fit in the back of the Triton. After a 1,000km drive, I rolled into the showground late on Friday afternoon and it hit me. What had I signed up for? Surrounded by Race Transporters of all shapes and sizes, I was feeling seriously out of my depth and drove the Triton and DRZ off to the side for a couple of last minute preparations.
    Friday night was all about Route Sheets and riders briefings. It was 11pm by the time the route sheets were loaded and my head hit the pillow. At 11.01 my eyes sprung open and I thought of all the ways it would be possible to DNF my first ever race. I think I may need to re-read the chapter in Gally’s Off-Road guide on positive thinking.
    I heard a couple of bikes going early on Saturday and panicked that I had missed the start, not that it would have made a lot of difference to my times anyhow. After a solid breakfast of weetbix and toast, I fired up the DRZ and headed for the start line. As I looked around I began to see a bit of trepidation on the faces of other riders and it turned out I wasn’t alone. There were other first timers there and even the blokes who had raced other forms of off-road were a little unsure of what the Condo would bring. Without fail though, the thing that stuck with me was the quality of the riders lined up waiting for their allotted start time. They were all good blokes, happy to have a yarn, regardless of whether they were at the pointy end of the field or waiting in the shade at the back of the line with me. I got counted away in due time and managed to find the start of the first competitive section, unlike one other poor bugger who missed a turn and ended up at the start of the first car selective, 40km's away.
    With hydration levels at an all time high due to drinking copious quantities of water in the preceeding days, I did a nervous pee prior to the start of the first stage and I was off, tearing down a fence line and watching suspisciously as the first group of spectators waited at a dry creek designated as a Triple Caution. I have never ridden in front of spectators before and it was clear they were waiting for carnage from the back markers. Much to their dissapointment, I quietly rolled through and set about clearing the cobwebs out of the 400 on the next couple of straights. From here on in, I worked on settling into a solid trail riding pace and working on my three rules for the race.
    Don’t Crash,
    Don’t Break the Bike; and
    Don’t get Lost.
    Pretty soon the initial apprehension faded and I was cruising along enjoying the riding and the challenge of navigating. At one point in time I rode into a paddock where there were 5 riders approaching from 5 different angles. I guess they figured that my pace was slow enough that I must be reading the maps as they all latched on to the dust light of the 400 until we reached a defined track and off they went again.
    It was during the second stage that I realised that I may not be cut out for outright racing speed. While others were no doubt focussing on the terrain and the frightening maximum speeds on their ICO, I was wondering how patient you would have to be to try and farm the country we were riding through. Endless ploughed paddocks of dust and rubble that looked like it would run away and hide if it saw rain coming. Out of respect for the farmers I was careful to stay on the track and not cut across their paddocks, I figured they had enough to contend with as it was.

    My hydration levels caught up with me again during the day and at least a few spots of the parched earth received some precipitation of sorts. The rest of the day was a nice mix of open farm tracks and winding fire trails through Mallee Scrub. All in all it was a great days riding and it was a huge relief to make it back in one piece and feeling positive. Which was all well and good until Mick Carey gave me the run down on riding the bull dust bound to be left by the cars. No matter how many times someone explains it, there is just no way to comprehend the depth of the stuff until it is splashing over your boots on a tight trail, almost as if you were riding through water in a creek. All sorts of hidden gremlins were perched in the powder waiting to unseat an unsuspecting rider and it was a disappointment to see Will’s DR down in a particularly bad patch. I stopped to see if he was Ok and was waved on as a spectator ran over to help him out. It was only later that I realised he had broken his ankle in the topple and was unable to continue. Bugger.
    The stages before lunch on Sunday were a bit of a slog. The top riders were no doubt defying logic and gravity by blasting through the tight, chopped up Mallee tracks at speed but for me, I was content not to become part of the scenery. On the odd occasion when you could get a bit of rhythm up, the local emus and kangaroos peered out of the scrub to keep you on your toes.
    Cold water went in the camelback at lunch time followed by fresh route sheets for the MD and it was off to tackle the next stage. The first 15km’s looked like more of the same, deep bulldust with the odd less than gracious paddle required but the hard work was rewarded as the trail opened up and the speeds picked up. Its funny how the loose corners that were tackled with caution in the morning looked like they were pristine after battling through 100 odd km’s of deep dusty ruts. Momentum picked up, the bike flowed and at one point in time I felt like I could ride half decent, unreal! This continued on for the rest of the stage with the highlight being a set of whoops that I managed to tackle two at a time. I have never hit anything quite so right in my riding career and was seriously tempted to go back and try it again, must be great to have the ability to do it all the time. Unfortunately the fun stopped a little ways down the track when Adam Baker was standing beside two busted rims (made GT's dint look like a pimple on a pumpkin :eek1) and a somewhat lighter version of the KTM he started on in the morning. He had hit a rock in the dust at speed and it got ugly. The bike cart wheeled and he was bloody lucky to walk away. A real shame that he couldn’t make it to the finish as he was so close.

    As was the trend for the weekend, the mood changed at the end of the penultimate control. After hitting my straps in the second last stage and getting excited that I only had 30km’s to go, the Clerk of Course informed me that the last stage had to be closed early for safety reasons. “You have to be #$%ing kidding me” was my first reaction. I quietly rode off, did a little dummy spit in my helmet and calmed down by the time we reached the Finishers line at the showground. At first I was disappointed that they wouldn’t let us on the stage, as I had ridden so tidy for the weekend and managed to stay upright and out of mischief. In hindsight though I can see that they had their reasons and that for the riders who missed out it really wasn’t that big a deal. The initial disappointment soon dissipated as I rolled under the finishing banner and headed to the bar to begin repaying my support crew, Rod for his assistance and guidance on the weekend, what a legend :clap. The presentation dinner was pretty cool (except for poor Bilblat who got left off the list of finishers due to an Admin error :huh), and a highlight of the weekend was finally catching up with the Advrider crowd who I had only managed to meet in small numbers previously :1drink.
    In the end it was a great weekend and I am really pleased with myself that I decided to give it a shot. My times were slow at best, finishing 42nd out of a field of 60, but I proved to myself that I could do it and met a bunch of terrific people in the process :wave.

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    Re: Oz - Condo 750 Rallye 07

    Will - DR650

    "Losing my Condo Cherry"

    After reading akk the other reports, just thought I'd add my 10 cents worth..
    The “lunchbox” and standard tripmeter did me OK, probably due to the slow speeds I was traveling. On the 5km odo check, I read 4.85ish so I knew I’d have problems! I’d never seen or marked up a roadbook before but kept my highlighting to a minimum – blue for directions and yellow for triple cautions and anything else important eg “hard to see”. It worked pretty well, the only thing I did different on day 2 was to yellow mark the gates or gaps that were on mid straight sections rather than corners – I’d missed a couple of them on Saturday. On the last section on day 1 I got myself 3.3km over on the odo due to a wrong turn (no thanks to the spectators who didn’t tell me I’d gone wrong). It really didn’t help doing mental arithmetic as well as ride the bike and read the book (example 38.67, that’s about 39 – bulldust slide, minus 3.3 = 36.7, so is that the bike at 38.7? what was the roadbook, 3?? Ooh watch that rock, where was I, what gear am I in – you get the picture!!) :lol3
    I used the flat straight sections to “sort myself out” rather than ming it but they were the only places I felt ok to ride one handed – still better than stopping. There were tracks to follow or caution signs/hazard tape that let you know if you were on track but I did keep up the navigation in case I got to a bit that wasn’t clear.
    To be competitive you do really need the proper gear, although the guy on the XR400 was doing day 2 with no roadbook (smashed it on day 1) and getting on pretty well???

    Terrain
    The ploughed up dark brown soft **** was pretty horrible, the sand with broken scattered rock was interesting but I’ve never been in bulldust, so that was pretty full on. Usually 2 inches of sand is enough to get my ringpiece clenching!! All the rest of it was OKish. It’s amazing what I was afraid of in the earlier sections and what I learnt to cope with as the rally progressed.
    None of the triple cautions caused any difficulty but they were handy to use a navigation points!!

    Thanks
    My support crew were tops – big dinner and chocolates owing. :raabia I must say a huge thanks for the support from the “DR massive”. I never thought when I bought the Suzuki that I’d actually get a fan club ‘cos of it! Also thanks to all the ADV guys who’ve posted pics. It was great to meet you all and special thanks to Rosscoact for helping get the bikes back on the trailer.

    The experience
    Bloody great. I’m not a competitive type especially when I know I’ve no chance in winning! It was just great to do it. Traveling in the sweep vehicle let me know how many people are involved and the amount of organization – Hats off to them all. Maybe there should be a grading system for newcomers/inexperienced?? Would I do it again? Probably not. The excitement of “losing my cherry” would not be there and I’d only have the chance of getting a poor finish time at best. I’d rather hang on to the $$ for the entry and license fee and put them towards a decent “adventure” with ADV guys into the Deua Valley or Tom Groggin + Pinnibar. I find the DR handles a lot better with loaded panniers anyway!! Anyone up for that??

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