New chain

[idefix]

Hi again, I am probably too active on this page, but i have a crappy bike that works fine (but only clocked 35000km if one should trust the speedo).

Anyway, I have to replace my chain for next season (I already bought a DID set). Do I take off the swingarm for that or do I just join the chain with the special tool ? How difficult is it to align the chain / wheel afterwards ? I also have no sticker on the aft frame showing the wear out of chain, anyone have a photo of that with a measurement from the aft part of the frame ?

[Adnoh Plasnart]

April the 1st already?

[FatFergie]

April the 1st already?

Oh behave! He's new here.

Idefix; you can remove the swingarm if you like but unless you bought an endless chain there's no need, do a search for chain fitting, there's been loads of discussion already, likewise chain wear and wheel aligmnent.
I'd recommend a Haynes manual unless you've already got one, very handy for all the specifications.

[JohnR]

[quote=idefix;210290]DID set). or do I just join the chain with the special tool ?

What area are you in Idefix. I bought a chain riveter and by the looks of my chain with a Scotoiler fitted it is going to sit unused for another year or more. If you are anywhere near me you are welcome to use it, if not I expect there is someone close to you with one.

[idefix]

Thanks. Nice that someone actually have good suggestions instead of silly remarks . Yes I have a DID chain set, and the riveter tool too. Have the haynes manual too by the way, just needed to know if it was common to take off the swingarm every time. I'll search the forum for more ... not sure I'll find it neccessary to fit a Scottoiler though.

[idefix]

I am now in the process of replacing that chain. Realized the chain on the bike was a DID but it so full of s...it so it almost can't bend. I found the "weak" link and tried the riveter tool, well the pin side, to push out the pin ... it broke ... the tool that is .. So I got a bit anoyed and went for the chain cutter tongs .. voila! Well, that crap is off, now I am sitting here with an endless new chain .... think the arm has to come off, anyone done it before on a TA ? Any advice ?

After the mess the chain spraying has produced i am pretty sur I will also invest in a Scottoiler or similar device ... any links.

[FatFergie]

I am now in the process of replacing that chain. Realized the chain on the bike was a DID but it so full of s...it so it almost can't bend. I found the "weak" link and tried the riveter tool, well the pin side, to push out the pin ... it broke ... the tool that is .. So I got a bit anoyed and went for the chain cutter tongs .. voila! Well, that crap is off, now I am sitting here with an endless new chain .... think the arm has to come off, anyone done it before on a TA ? Any advice ?

After the mess the chain spraying has produced i am pretty sur I will also invest in a Scottoiler or similar device ... any links.

Clean everything before you start. Make sure you have the right size sockets and/or spanners. It's a good opertunity to grease the bearings and bushes. If it hasn't been removed before the bolts/pivots might be tight so take your time. Loosen the sprocket nuts front and rear before you take the wheel and chain off...........whoops too late!

[Lutin]

If your chain comes with both a split link and a rivet link then do what I did. Fit the chain with the rivet link and ride to the nearest (or favourite ) dealer and let them fit the rivet link.

This is what I did earlier this year, but with the added complication of visiting Colwyn Bay motorcycles (nice people) to get the rivet link fitted and I live in Galway (on the west coast of Ireland for the geographically challenged ).

Oh and I was only charged a tenner (sterling).

It's a long story and I won't bore you with the details.....

Ride safe.

[Lumiya]

I am now in the process of replacing that chain. Realized the chain on the bike was a DID but it so full of s...it so it almost can't bend. I found the "weak" link and tried the riveter tool, well the pin side, to push out the pin ... it broke ... the tool that is .. So I got a bit anoyed and went for the chain cutter tongs .. voila! Well, that crap is off, now I am sitting here with an endless new chain .... think the arm has to come off, anyone done it before on a TA ? Any advice ?

After the mess the chain spraying has produced i am pretty sur I will also invest in a Scottoiler or similar device ... any links.

The reason for a chain splitter to break is normally one of two things.

1. The splitter isn;t rated up to the chain size
2. The splitter wasn't perfectly perpendicular to the chain

Here Jen just gets out the grinder if she needs to remove an old chain, mind you she also uses that method for removing old car tyres from corroded rims

ScottOilers are great though the oil can be expensive but is better than having to remember to lube your chain every so many miles. Though the cost of oil is normally offset by the extended life of the chain.

When I was a courier one guy who's wife was a nurse set up his own drip feed to the chain which he'd feed with a cheap oil. The only problem with that is that he had to remember to turn it off after parking the bike up (something which scott-oilers do automatically as it's switched via engine vacumm)

I also seem to remember that there used to be another chain oiler about (chain tec????) that used a free floating horizontally mounted piston instead of gravity feed. When you accelareted and decellerated the G-force moved the piston which in turn pumped oil onto the chain..anyone know if theses are still available??

Kymmy

[idefix]

A lot of good advice there, thanks. I removed the wheel yesterday, and trying to get that sprocket off ... it is not possible !! I figured turning the nuts on the back would be the safest, instead of starting on the umbraco. It is really stuck and believe me I even tried with extended arm ...
I have now taken the sprocket part off the hub and will bring it to the dealer for replacing the sprocket ... would it be an idea to change the wheel bearings as well, as I am also replacing my tyre, and the wheel is off ? When did you replace yours ?

I have got all the rear suspension bits off (a real mess of chain spray and gravel ...) and yes they where not not easy going. Considering to replace the damper with a hagon one (although the original is probably still working (37000 km)).

I did not have the right pipe/spanner to get that last long swingarm bolt off, coincidence maybe, as I now get advice on maybe not doing so ... Also realised it might be smart to supprot the engine with a jack if I ever gonna get that bolt out.

That swing arm hasd plenty of water in it by the way .... gonna do some tectyle or dinitrol inside there i think ...

Considering getting a Pro Oiler (only sold on the net) http://www.pro-oiler.com/