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    Re: Transalp laid up for 13 years - what to do?

    To that extensive lists above, I would add:
    • Grease the axles
    • Have a look at the brakes: check smooth ppiston action.
    • CLOSELY inspect the brake hose: flex it this way and that to see if the rubber is splitting
    • Grease the throttle cable and check smooth operation
    • Ideally check that the grease has not evaporated on the head races, but that is a pain.
    • Climb on and bounce the front forks for smoothness, and then sit up and down for the rear
    • Generally keep a close eye for any powdery residues that suggest perished rubbers.
    • Open the air-box and check your filter is not a mouse's nest
    Should not be a complicated fix, but may take a little while and don't expect it to fire up on the first crank (although it might!!)
    Good luck.

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    Re: Transalp laid up for 13 years - what to do?

    What do we think about break fluid - replace? Or will it be ok?

    Tyres seem in good nick and are keeping their pressure, but they haven't been put under any stress yet.

    I think I'll remove the spark plugs (replace?), put a squirt of oil into the cylinders, put her in gear and turn the engine over with the rear wheel (why don't bikes have kick-starts any more) just in case there's any rust in there.
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    Re: Transalp laid up for 13 years - what to do?

    At £3.50 a bottle, I'd replace the brake fluid: not worth the risk not to.

    Once bled and clean fluid is flowing from the bleed nipples, nip them up, and bungee the brake lever so that it is under pressure, and hang a tub of paint off the brake pedal.

    Leave over night.

    Next morning, check for fluid seepage from the calipers: you'll know if the pistons seals are still good.

    Spark plugs: Sure, replace them. Spark plugs can be responsible for hard to trace running problems. If you have any, at least you'll know it's not from the plugs.

    Take the plugs out, squirt a bit of oil, jiggle the gearbox into top gear and crank the engine over using the rear wheel (check direction of rotation!!). If anything is seized, you'll get more warning without using an electric starter to strain the seized components.

    Also: forgot to add:
    GREASE THE CHAIN!!

    It may seem like a lot, but you have also got 13 years of saved money not spent on fuel, services and bike tyres, so you're still quids in!!

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    Re: Transalp laid up for 13 years - what to do?

    Tangle


    I saw this thread yesterday and have been in shock since then, so it's taken me a while to reply!

    First off, you have one of the country's, and XRV favourite suppliers just up the road from you WEMOTO in Portslade, so everything you'll need is there, minutes away!

    Next, I'll pretty much reflect what others have said.

    Drain fuel, slosh out tank with fresh fuel before filling again
    Change oil & filter
    Change coolant
    Change brake fluid
    New battery
    Consider changing tyres

    Your idea about removing the plugs and putting a bit of WD40 down the bores and turning over by hand is a good one. REMEMBER these bikes have 2 cylinders but 4 spark plugs, two of which are difficult to get out.

    Personally, I think you find the bike is knackered and probably only good as scrap. I am very happy to offer you a couple of quid to take it off your hands

    Actually, I'm just along the coast in Seaford, so if you get stuck with anything, I'll be happy to pop over and ogle at your antique.


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    Re: Transalp laid up for 13 years - what to do?

    ah,yes! brake fluid,thats one to change for sure. dont forget to post a few "before" and"after" pics if you can.

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    Re: Transalp laid up for 13 years - what to do?

    Quote Originally Posted by BobA View Post
    First off, you have one of the country's, and XRV favourite suppliers just up the road from you WEMOTO in Portslade, so everything you'll need is there, minutes away!
    Thanks for that, I'll pop over and buy my bits.

    Personally, I think you find the bike is knackered and probably only good as scrap. I am very happy to offer you a couple of quid to take it off your hands
    Yep, your probably right, I'll give it a quick go and if it doesn't work, I'll just tip it - I wouldn't dream of abusing your kindness by taking you up on your selfless offer


    Just read my owners handbook and found that the oil filter needs a special tool plus torque wrench to replace - it that really true? I can get my hands on a torque wrench - is there a workaround for the tool?

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    Re: Transalp laid up for 13 years - what to do?

    Quote Originally Posted by BobA View Post
    Personally, I think you find the bike is knackered and probably only good as scrap. I am very happy to offer you a couple of quid to take it off your hands

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    Re: Transalp laid up for 13 years - what to do?

    Sounds like some good advice there. I'd regard this as a great opportunity, personally! I have dreams now and then where I find an old vehicle I've owned in a shed or garage, having forgotten about it. I always wake up to reality feeling sad the dream was just a dream. You're living the dream - no need to feel concerned about anything, as whatever you need to do will be nothing compared to what you would have had to do over 13 years of use!

    I have to admit I'd definitely be tempted to fit new tyres and tubes. I just replaced a 20-year old tyre and a car, which otherwise looked fine (not perishing and plenty of tread - it was the spare) but caused terrible handling on the road, and might well have come apart at speed. See what you think when it's rolling.

    The petrol tap on a 600 TA is a vacuum feed type - no fuel when the engine is not running and causing suction. I may be wrong, but assuming the tap still works as it should, would this not mean that the fuel that was left in the float bowls is all that will have entered the carbs over this time? I swear by Silkolene FST for cleaning carbs without stripping, by the way.
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    Re: Transalp laid up for 13 years - what to do?

    Quote Originally Posted by tangle View Post
    ...Yep, your probably right, I'll give it a quick go and if it doesn't work, I'll just tip it - I wouldn't dream of abusing your kindness by taking you up on your selfless offer


    Just read my owners handbook and found that the oil filter needs a special tool plus torque wrench to replace - it that really true? I can get my hands on a torque wrench - is there a workaround for the tool?

    Think nothing of it, I was only thinking about your interests, HONEST (I'm a doctor, would I lie to you!!??!!)


    The trouble with the oil filter is it's in an awkward place and usually covered in oil and chainlube (yours obviously won't be!). It's hard to get a filter cup on, so I would recommend one of these oil filter straps. LIDL were doing them a week or so ago for a couple of quid, but Halfords do them as well (by Sykes Pickavant). In my opinion these are perfect for the Honda engine, and make getting it undone and done up easy. I don't bother with a torque wrench, I just tightenen it up a sensible amount, i.e the same as the one that came off!!





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    Re: Transalp laid up for 13 years - what to do?

    I'd say that fresh tyres were a must. They harden with time, so you'd be risking binning a great and rare bike.

    Let's have some pics!

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