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Attention all 650 owners in UK...(ULEZ)

In April 2019 new emissions rules come into effect in London (The "ULEZ"). Any bike that does not meet the Euro3 standard will have to pay £12.50 per day to enter central London.

There is an online checker here where you can see if your bike is ok , or not

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emission-zone/vrm-checker-ulez

Now.... I entered a registration from a 2001 Transalp and that did not pass, yet a 2004 model did pass. As far as I can see they are exactly the same bike/engine/cat/exhaust/carbs.

So... I am asking any 650 owners out there to put their reg into the website and report back here the year of their bike, and if it passes the test, as I am curious to see if there is a pattern etc

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The 2 x vy & 1 x v1 that I have owned are all subject to the charge, a v4 picked at random from ebay is not subject to the charge.

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Hi.....Old V reg Transalp XL600v " IS" £12.50 A DAY....Yet ! both gas guzzling 4 X 4 cars...a 2.8ltr V6 Passat 4 Motion and Honda 2.0 CRV...BOTH ON 02 PLATES ARE EXEMPT ?.....Looks to me like they don't want any motorbikes wizzing around London....You watch...very soon they'll be taxing bloody bicycles to get extra cash from any and everyone....
 

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All Transalp 600s will have to pay the charge

And it looks like 2000-2001 Transalp 650s will pay the charge

what years correspond to the "vy", "v1", "v2" and "v3" - does anyone know?
 

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It's a standard Honda model year letter/numbering system
Vy - 2000
V1 - 2001
V2 - 2002 etc
My vfr750f was an FL model where 'L' was 1990 model year.

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ok, i know a 2004 and 2007 650cc models pass the ULEZ test

what baffles me is that the engine etc is exactly the same in all 650 models.

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the only two explanations i can think of for some 650s failing the test and later ones passing are.....

a) they tweaked the carbs/cat to meet the Euro3 rules around 2003

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b) early 650s met Euro3 rules but Honda did not "register" this with the Authorities.

Wikipedia says Euro3 came into force in the year 2000?

Euro 3 (2000) for any vehicle—98/69/EC[SUP][11][/SUP]
  • For motorcycle—2002/51/EC (row B)[SUP][10][/SUP]—2006/120/EC
 

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When I contacted the Town Hall a year ago they have written back to me saying ANY engine made prior 2008 will be subject to the charge
 

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I think any bike registered after June 2007 has to meet Euro3, but some models were meeting the standard before then

for example my April 2007 R1200RT meets the Euro3 standard, as do 2003+ transalps it would appear
 

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I think the confusion just confirms that the whole nonsense is based on political dogma and is nothing at all to do with "clean air"! I'm just glad that I don't have to go into London (whether bu bike, or car) ...... and hope that other local authorities don't go down the same path any time soon (Although I know that some, including Cardiff, are thinking that way :angry1: )
 

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as an update to this.... i just put a 2004, 2005 and 2007 XL650 reg into the ULEZ site and it said all the bikes ARE subject to the charge.

so maybe they have changed things?
 

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i have just checked a number of ebay 650 Transalps from the years 2004-2007 on the ULEZ checker and they ALL fall the test

something has obviously been updated.
 
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