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Not a bike thing but you lot on here are very adaptable if not knowledgeable. I only have one key with my Focus and have already been silly/careless enough to lock it inside, gladly I got away with that with help from a passing locksmith. Maybe there are angles after all. So I went into Timsons to see how much a spare key would be and was told about £80. Now I know it has a chip etc but I only want to get into the car in an emergency and not necessarily drive it. It's just cover in case I lock the key in again. So, any suggestions? I was thinking of a blank off evilbay but could I get anyone to cut it?.
 

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Not a bike thing but you lot on here are very adaptable if not knowledgeable. I only have one key with my Focus and have already been silly/careless enough to lock it inside, gladly I got away with that with help from a passing locksmith. Maybe there are angles after all. So I went into Timsons to see how much a spare key would be and was told about £80. Now I know it has a chip etc but I only want to get into the car in an emergency and not necessarily drive it. It's just cover in case I lock the key in again. So, any suggestions? I was thinking of a blank off evilbay but could I get anyone to cut it?.

they are that expensive - you can get a "service" key which doesnt have the gubbins inside the fob - but stil opens and operates the car as normal...

i have looked into getting chip key from eblag - and some of the companies on there offer cutting service too - but then theyll have your address and a key mould too - so it might be worth going back to Ford.
 

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thats cheap, uor old fiat camper and Renault masters only have 2 keys and more and its a reboot and £500:hitler: and fiat have the special RED key.

£80 is better than a broken window trying to get in dont be so tight......:thumbright:
 

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Next time you do it, it could cost a lot more to call out an engineer or like to get your car open in future.
 

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you can get a "service" key which doesnt have the gubbins inside the fob - but stil opens and operates the car as normal...
Some years ago when I worked in a Ford dealers I had a Transit as a company van.As anyone who has owned one of these knows they take forever to warm up on a cold winters morning.I went and cut myself a spare key without the chip in it so that I could start the van and leave it running then lock the door with the spare key.I don't see why a Ford dealer would not cut you a spare key like this for just a few quid.

Please don't tell me about the rights and wrongs of leaving a vehicle running to defrost it,I always locked it and never had a problem.I know you shouldn't do it.
 

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Twistgrip.

So I'm right in thinking you only have one key, if you lose that one key it will cost a lot more than £80, ford could well skim you for a new lock set plus gaining entry.

Get yourself a chipped spare key and stop being such a tight arse:happy8:
 

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£80 sounds cheap. I had the works car in the renault garage a while back and the guy next to me was having fits when he was presented with his bill for £350 for a new key. Dont know what car he had though, other than it was a renault. By comparison, £80 is light.
 

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Not a bike thing but you lot on here are very adaptable if not knowledgeable. I only have one key with my Focus and have already been silly/careless enough to lock it inside, gladly I got away with that with help from a passing locksmith. Maybe there are angles after all. So I went into Timsons to see how much a spare key would be and was told about £80. Now I know it has a chip etc but I only want to get into the car in an emergency and not necessarily drive it. It's just cover in case I lock the key in again. So, any suggestions? I was thinking of a blank off evilbay but could I get anyone to cut it?.
Most locksmiths and lock shops will cut a key without the immobilizer chip in them for around £5. My wife had one done in a local shop with the immobilzer chip cloned and that cost her £15.00 for a Vauxhall key
 

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£80 sounds cheap. I had the works car in the renault garage a while back and the guy next to me was having fits when he was presented with his bill for £350 for a new key. Dont know what car he had though, other than it was a renault. By comparison, £80 is light.
He may have had keyless entry using a chipand pin type of card.
 

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you may be able to find someone who will cut you one if you sign disclaimer to say it doesn;t have a chip and you know this!

or if you go to the key cutter at your local market they will generally be prepared to help you out if you explain what it's for

worth an ask!

my mate and I had them cut for our vauxhalls when we had them so we could take the blank with us when surfing/kayaking etc and lock the remote key in the car as the blank was waterproof see!!

with my new car I just hide the key somewhere and then hope it's there when i get out of the water - in fairness - not likely anyone gonna nick it!

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A friend of my mate had a ford Anglia and I used to be able to open the car with my bike key.
 

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Well I eventually got around to getting another key cut in a cobblers/key place. First attempt new key won't turn lock. I was surprised when the bloke just looked at the key, wrote down some numbers and just cut it. I examined the original and there were no numbers! Anyway returns the next day and he changes his mind on one number and puts the key through the machine again. Still no joy. Come back tomorrow says he my partner will be here and he'll sort it. Upon returns new bloke looks at key, guesses some new numbers and cuts new key. Still don't work! Then he declares machine is wrong and a row develops with the two blokes. They give me my cash back and continue to call the odds. A very strange experience indeed. Can you really guess how to cut a key? the quest continues.
 

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There is a cheap way of doing it, as I did with an Alfa Romeo I used to own.

Get two plain keys cut, without the immobiliser bit inside.

Tape the original key with the immobiliser inside the steering column, this way, the inductive loop for the transponder will pick up the immobiliser key, but you will be using a plain blank key to actually start the car.

This assumes of course that the immobiliser is de-activated using an antenna/loop around the ignition barrel.

Flip side of this is, you always have a spare key inside the car as well, so if you get really desperate, you can smash or force the window, but will be able to undo the steering lock and start it with your hidden original key.




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P.S. The few experiences I've had with Timpson keys were frustrating and involved many trips back to the shop as well. They're crap!!
I know a brilliant bloke, who MAY be able to copy your immobiliser and key, but he is in Sussex, so probably not convenient for you.

JS Locksmiths (speak to Rob)
1 King Street
East Grinstead, West Sussex, RH19 3DH
01342 313184
 

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The numbers that the key bloke was on about are the depths of the cuts he has to make to produce the key.I seem to remember it's six cuts and four or five depths to choose from.The Ford keys are easy to read when they are in good condition but they do tend to wear badly making it pretty difficult sometimes.
 
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