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Honda today confirms that the Crosstourer model unveiled as a concept at the 2010 EICMA show will go into mass production, and be revealed to customers at the 2011 EICMA show in November. 



The Crosstourer combines sports touring features, such as the V4 engine configuration also found in the VFR1200F, with the long travel suspension, upright riding position and styling of an off-road machine.

The machine will also be offered with the option of Honda’s innovative Dual Clutch Transmission technology. 
 


Yosuke Hasegawa, leader of the development team, said: 
"The Crosstourer offers a high-level fusion of vibrant off-road styling, upright riding position, V4 engine power and Dual Clutch Transmission that offers more direct power transmission and easy operation. We are convinced that we have successfully brought out new value in what can be termed the true Crossover Concept."


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Err...seen that before somewhere??? ow yes its got a BMW badge on...

same wheels and huge front if that aint a blatant copy well I never...dont think that will sell well..as alwats they should have done what we all want..

a new xrv800 with 21ltr tank lite wheels 18" rear and 80bhp and proper spaced gearing -no high first gear..and about 175kg fully fueled.
 

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Err...seen that before somewhere??? ow yes its got a BMW badge on...
Maybe, but it will be more reliable and better put together than it's German counterpart. I rode the VFR1200 with the Auto / semi auto box and it was a peach so bring it on. It was weird though riding a bike with a park brake;)
 

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The new Honda TriBMWmaha !!!!
 

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I am looking forward to seeing the real thing.....from what i can see I like it.....maybe in a few yars I will be able to pick a good second hand one up for decent dosh....;)
 

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Another Beak bike (Sigh...)

So, what's "cross" with it?
"Tourer" I can understand, but cross?

This is cross, IMNSHO:


Well, I guess it's a good thing that there options to the GS, but it will be interesting to see the new watercooled GS with the new Öhlins system.

 

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I really like the idea of owning one with the DSG gearbox.
 

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Err...seen that before somewhere??? ow yes its got a BMW badge on...

I agree that it looks familiar, but maybe that's because of its pedigree. To me it looks like a third generation Varadero. I can certainly see the lines of my 99er in there. The vestigial beak is purely a fashion statement and maybe pays lipservice to the success of BMW GSs.
I like the look, but can't forsee a time when I could afford one, assuming its going to be priced to match the competition.
 

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The bling word in the motor trade is "cross over", just look at the Jute, the Cashqai and what ever. Honda are just trying to cash in on it.
I think it looks like a next gen Varadero, I personally like it but as has been mentioned, the price may be an issue. The current Vara is £9200, a new all singing, all dancing model is bound to be a couple of grand more so possibly up into the XT1200 price bracket. Double the price of my current Varadero? No thanks.

If Mr Honda's reading this to test the water, I might buy one, I'm not saying I wouldn't! But,,,, in the interim,,,,!

Why not take those wheels and that suspension, stick them on to your Crossdressing VFR800X and I'll trade you a used Tiger 800 and a thick wad of cash for it! It would get rid of those Crossdressers!
 

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The bling word in the motor trade is "cross over", just look at the Jute, the Cashqai and what ever. Honda are just trying to cash in on it.

The Crossdresser does seem to be an cynical Honda attempt at competing with the GS12/XTZ/Stelvio etc. I guess if there's a market share to had Honda will want their bit of it. I definitely wouldn't consider buying one, not because it wouldn't be a good bike, I just prefer older machinery that I can (and usually have to) tinker with. I've just got no interest in most new bikes. You could (just about) buy a Gold Star or the front end of a Black Shadow for the sort of money Honda'll charge for that piece of over-designed nonsense.

Anyway, I think it's damned ugly, overweight and bloomin' useless off-road. Hang on, I've just described myself - perhaps it's the perfect bike for me after all. :D
 

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It looks bleeding awful......but surely this is what Honda's customers want right? They did market research didnt they?

Im with Tramp, it should have been something else! They already have a few entries in the tourer market.
 

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GSA lookylikey... and i bet the price tag matches too.

you must be mad to spend that money, all these new adventure bikes coming out with 5 figure price tags, even a decent second hand GSA can set you back 10 or 11 grand. I just don't know how anyone can justify that money for a bike!

If i was in the market for a good adventure bike that can do light green laning and on-road then i'd rather be throwing my money at an Africa Twin etc... and i wouldn't be throwing anywhere near as much money too, iv'e seen a few go on here for the 3k mark that were cracking bikes.



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If i was in the market for a good adventure bike that can do light green laning and on-road then i'd rather be throwing my money at an Africa Twin etc... and i wouldn't be throwing anywhere near as much money too, iv'e seen a few go on here for the 3k mark that were cracking bikes.
agree 100% Craig (I still like the bike tho) but one thing I don't understand is the amount of high tech stuff they put on these so called "adventure" bikes.....if u r in an adventure, u r likely to be some distance away from official highly computerized honda/other garages. Something goes pop, how are u going to fix that bike with standard tools...? Do we really need so much tech/IT bits on a bike..? BMW are coming out with a 360 degrees camera/computer gadget, is it really necessary..?:confused:
 

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If i was in the market for a good adventure bike that can do light green laning and on-road then i'd rather be throwing my money at an Africa Twin etc... and i wouldn't be throwing anywhere near as much money too, iv'e seen a few go on here for the 3k mark that were cracking bikes.
And this appears to be the thinking behind the proposed European Legislation. Get all these excellent and economical used bikes, maintained by enthusiastic owners, off the road. Force everyone to buy new. You can't afford new? Tough. Get off the road. You're a nuisance anyway:blob6:
 

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The Cross Tourer was on the Honda stand at Motorcycle Live at the NEC. Its a pre production model and the only one in europe. I was able to get a good look round it and more importantly, try it for size. So far the bike suits me fine. The bars, seat, pegs are well set for me at 6 ft 3. Definatly want to have a test on one.
Forty five mpg claimed with a 21 litre tank gives over 200 miles to dry so if the mpg estimate is good then the range would be reasonable.
The core of the bike looked well built as you would expect from a Honda, the still to be completed pre production bits remaining looked pretty good to me.
One thing I would like to see is the bash plate/ skid plate of the concept bike including in the production model. The lowest part is the exhaust pipes and although I wouldnt buy this bike for any serious off tarmac use a bit of underbelly protection would be usefull to limit any expensive damage to expensive pipes.
I would look to choose the DSG auto box option. The Cross Tourer is a realy advanced bike. The technology has allready been tested on the VFR. I would use it for tarmac touring, crossing europe and hopefully more.
The seating posttion is well suited for this use which I guess is what most customers would do with it.
 

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You were lucky it was all taped off on a stage yesterday and we couldn't get near it.
I was there yesterday and really wanted a good look at the Cross Tourer. I explained that to the Honda people and was invited to come back to the stand after the show closed. Really helpfull people. Their main concern was because it was pre production people would pass judgement as if it was a production version and comment on that basis.
It also helped that I was there courtesy of a Honda pass made available to the forum via DaveS.

Like any bike, its not till you try it that you can judge properly. I am looking to replace the Goldwing and my posh AT with one bike (you can only ride one at a time) and the Cross Tourer may fit the bill.
 
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