Do you ride a bike Alan?... ive overtaken loads of times whilst theres oncoming traffic it just depends on what oncoming traffic there is, obviously i only do it when it's safe but if some absolute peice of sh!t drives his car into me and forces me into them it's not exactly my fault now is it.So what was the biker doing overtaking when there was oncoming traffic? That sounds like it was a "meat in the sandwich" move. That would explain how the motorcyclist was forced into oncoming traffic
You do neither, you drive as you would normally drive and if a vehicle attempts to overtake you, you slow down to let it pass, thats the safe thing to do.Slightly diffeent scenario... If you're riding down a single carriageway road and a car behind looks like it is lining up to squeeze between you and oncoming traffic, do you move over and let them through forcing you into the gutter, or do you close the gap so they are not tempted to squeeze through? Was the car driver just attempting the same?
i do quite a lot of overtaking in heavy traffic around town etc. i go into an overtake with no expectations of the car moving one way or another. if they move over and let me through, great, they get a thumb up where possible. if they stay still, thats also fine. ill have made sure theres enough room for me to get safely past either way. what you dont expect is movement to block you. its deliberate and misguided at the VERY best, and bordering on death by reckless driving at worst.it doesn't matter if the biker was being an arse, and overtaking when he shouldn't. The car driver should have attempted to avoid an accident, and moved out of the way as much as possible. If there had been an accident then, he would be blameless. By moving into the way deliberately, it's little short of attempted murder.
Yes, I do ride a motorcycle - I just didn't phrase my post clearly enough.Do you ride a bike Alan?... ive overtaken loads of times whilst theres oncoming traffic it just depends on what oncoming traffic there is
+1it doesn't matter if the biker was being an arse, and overtaking when he shouldn't. The car driver should have attempted to avoid an accident, and moved out of the way as much as possible. If there had been an accident then, he would be blameless. By moving into the way deliberately, it's little short of attempted murder.
A27 Bob? :hitler:t reads like the biker was passing the vehicle on it's side of the white line, so potentially quite close. So I wondered if it was a solid white line that the biker has chosen NOT to cross (as the law states) but he'd determined there was enough room to pass the car (until said car veered into his path). Solid white lines are generally on dangerous lengths of road or where visibility is reduced.
Thats all fine and dandy as long as the dickhead in the car doesnt try to kill you, you may well have plenty of time to overtake and get back in but if the car hits you side on by the time you have shat yourself, probably tried braking (bike swerving all over the pla!!!BANG!!!...) head on collision because the time it would have normally took to get out and back in was trippled due to mr numpty nearly knocking you off.I do overtake when there is oncoming traffic as long as there is plenty of space to do so safely. I'll give plenty of room to the vehicle I'm overtaking (just in case they swerve around a pothole or some debris - or drop their coffee in their lap). I'll get back on my side of the road well before reaching an oncoming vehicle
Yes, in your scenario it would be somewhat difficult to avoid even if you were performing a completely by-the-book overtake. If someone is that determined to knock you off, they will generally succeed.Thats all fine and dandy as long as the dickhead in the car doesnt try to kill you