[AckAckFlack]

Thanks for highlighting the differences I. The k60 scout depending on the profile and size

From Heidenau, clarity:

Dilemma now is when I replace the rear on the @ with a K60 scout which to fit
150 or 140?

I use the twin mostly for trail use but plan to use it more over winter for commuting.

The centre strip, I presume is to help with the weight of the bikes that use this as standard GS, varadero.
The @ isn't as powerful or even as heavy - do you think the 150 would be better than the 140 ?

The front will have a tkc on it as it is lasting forever.

So 150 or 140 ?

 

[beddowsm]

Id go for 150. They look a lot bigger on the @......but what do I know. Wait for someone more knowledgable.

 

[AckAckFlack]

Id go for 150. They look a lot bigger on the @......but what do I know. Wait for someone more knowledgable.

Can't pull the wool over your eyes Mike. Thanks for the input

 

[tramp]

Hi Gary,

the 150 is a deffinate NO WAY...off road its worse than the 140 which is okay when new but as soon as the centre bar is equal to the other tread unless its gravel and dry ,it slips around no end and on the ruts and grass sections even when damp its sideways all the time.

And I dont ride fast well 35-45 on the trails, ask mike but do like to hang the rear out so for me I`m used to it. As a commute tyre and for dry trail days its fine [k60] but owt else the Mitas E09 has my money and I would use one all year but I`ve got a supply of used old k60`s and pirelli mt21`s to use up first.

My 140 profile is down to centre bar after 2k but wear rate has now slowed and thats the lighter Ta650, also the softer scouts in my opinion are bad on sharp gravel as they are easily cut but in the wet and cold ..brilliant on road..#

Get to sets of rears and just change in spring for the mitas and then in autumn back onto the k60 when trail`s are finished.


just my opinion.

 

[AckAckFlack]

Hi Gary,

the 150 is a deffinate NO WAY...off road its worse than the 140 which is okay when new but as soon as the centre bar is equal to the other tread unless its gravel and dry ,it slips around no end and on the ruts and grass sections even when damp its sideways all the time.

And I dont ride fast well 35-45 on the trails, ask mikeut owt else the Mitas E09

just my opinion.

Thanks for the advice
I will still be doing the trails in the winter months so I will still need a tyre that can cope with the worsening conditions and still be on on the road - yeh I know there isn't one.
I am too lazy to change the Tyres over.
I don't want a tyre that can be easily damaged on the trials by rocks

I do like the tkc that is on the rear at the moment for both road and trail, and I am on the 2nd one now. I just want a longer wearing tyre that will feel ok on the road and trail.
Think the e09 mitas may be the next one - price is good too.

 

[beddowsm]

it slips around no end and on the ruts and grass sections even when damp its sideways all the time.

Wont make much difference to what tyre Gary gets Russ. He's normally sideways anyway....so may as well just go for the cheapest tyre and not put much thought into it.

 

[AckAckFlack]

Wont make much difference to what tyre Gary gets Russ. He's normally sideways anyway....so may as well just go for the cheapest tyre and not put much thought into it.

Sorry Russ what were you saying ? I swear I heard some drivel in the background

Mike would go off trail riding if I wasn't there to keep him entertained.

 

[tramp]

Hi gary,
just show mike a bag of spanners..he`ll sweat like a pig with worry he might brake something ...ha ha.

The mitas E09 should suit you best as the E10 is similar to the tkc but dearer and has smaller tread depth ti the E09 which is a real hard grippy tyre in the mud/gravel.

Only real problem I have heard of is people on Gs1200 braking the knobs off due to heavy bike and to much right wrist action.."lancaster mike".
and some people complain about then being twitchy in the wet on the roads but what the hell its a knobbly with 15mm depth so back off and slow down on the bends and they will excell on the trails...

I`m sure the sidewalls are as hard as the k60`s so you can run them at 18-20psi no probs...I`ve run them down to 12psi and they dont compress even when flat!!!

 

[beddowsm]

Hi gary,
just show mike a bag of spanners..he`ll sweat like a pig with worry he might brake something ...ha ha.

Did someone say spanners? My wife should have told you lot not to mention these "tool" words to me. Got to go, just heard a bit falling off the @ in the conservatory.

 

[Whealie]

I would have thought the 150 would be too big for standard @ rear. I have one the 3.5 rim I had made up but, for the standard RD07 3width you'd want a 140. If you are getting wheels rebuilt and can put a thinner one on or find and RD04 wheel in good nick, then put a 130 on.

 

[AckAckFlack]

Did someone say spanners? My wife should have told you lot not to mention these "tool" words to me. Got to go, just heard a bit falling off the @ in the conservatory.

Don't worry Mike have you still got those boxes that your ktm was in.
Put the shiny bits in one and the dirty bits in another and then we will send it to Chad et al to put back together.

 

[Paul-S]

I'd say go for the 140 - looks more capable for off road

 

[diskow]

If you want more millage take Mitas E07. You will get almost double more millage out than K60 with agressive ride. I couldnt believe until i tried both...

 

[olionel]

my E07 rear and TKC80 front arrived yesterday as the rain outside got worse and had me cringing, I should be trying to putting them on soon, if I give up off to the bike-shop I'll go with my wheels I'm curios how the e07 will be in mud since the rain won't stop till the snow arrives in November, if too twitchy I might invest in a TKC80 rear and keep the e07 for touring. (I don't use the bike for commuting etc)

 

[AckAckFlack]

my E07 rear and TKC80 front arrived yesterday as the rain outside got worse and had me cringing, I should be trying to putting them on soon, if I give up off to the bike-shop I'll go with my wheels I'm curios how the e07 will be in mud since the rain won't stop till the snow arrives in November, if too twitchy I might invest in a TKC80 rear and keep the e07 for touring. (I don't use the bike for commuting etc)

Don't worry Oli
First few times out with me I will make sure the trails are suitable.
I have been out today and had some fun here

Splish SPOLOSH - no mud inside as it is limestone country

 

[diskow]

Just my thoughts:

I personally wouldnt Mix TKC front knobby pattern with rear E07 diagonal pattern. (well depends on driving and leaning of the bike)

I would vote the use of both F+R E07 as the best allround combination and compromise.

Facts:
E07 in Mud = not good, TKC the same rubbish in mud.
E07 = great in snow as opposite TKC is not.
Continental = more grip in all weather (better rubber compound) on tarmac than Mitas
TKC 140 is thinner than M. Dessert 140. And yes pressure counts. I run my Deserts max on 1.6 bar.

Oh and I forgot to ask?
Is it just me or I really can not find one good reason why would somebody fit 150 tire on AT?
I would maybe think on 150 if I would run AT for 50 laps on race track! Still i would go in the opposite direction and use 130 and very round shape.

At the End:
Guys try it yourself, what suits best to you. Tire Thread patterns are like characters unlike Millage and Grip are fact.