[AlanH]

I couldn't believe this when I read it...

WalesOnline - News - Wales News - Stroke man to sue police for £100k for stress after attack on his car

The usual anti-police mob are up in arms about this of course - but they seem to be ignoring some pretty obvious issues when siding with this 70 year old disabled driver who is intent on suing the police to the tune of £100k

Firstly, it is apparent that he did not have the mental abilities to ascertain whether the police had finished dealing with him when they were booking him for no seatbelt. In his hurry to drive off (he says he needed to because he needed his heart and stroke medication), he clouted a copper. Off they trot in pursuit with twos and blues going - for miles!

He doesn't think that maybe they still want to talk to him. On the contrary, he maintains that he got confused and thought they were giving him an escort home. LMAO!!

So, there he is in a slow pursuit in his £60k Range Rover with illegal tints on the front windows - the sort that make it difficult to see bikes at junctions - and illegal number plates that just scream "D**KHEAD ALERT". Finally, on seeing the stinger, he thinks it might be a good idea to stop. The police do the standard "put the windows in" shock and awe job which obviously takes a bit longer due to the thick tint film. As they try to remove him from the vehicle, back rolls the Range Rover into the police car. Crunch!

Is it just me that thinks that someone who is this confused and supposedly frail should not be in charge of any motor vehicle - let alone one fitted with illegal vision restricting accessories?

So now, because of this twit, two coppers are suspended from duty pending investigation. What a waste of taxpayers money. If he gets a single penny out of the police, it will be a travesty (and, for the benefit of all those avid gutter press readers, that's nothing to do with cross-dressing).

...and relax

 

[winxp-master]

Read it the other day, no sympathy for him, learn the rules of the road or don't drive. Anyone that thinks a copper behind with blues and twos on is giving him an escort needs shooting, with his own sh!t!

so what that he's 70? if he's that `disabled` and frail he shouldn't be driving, the prat.

fek him and all who go about him...



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[BobA]

Firstly, I'd throw the book at the silly old ****

Then I'd double everything (just for being a tinted window, wannabee gangster tosser), and make sure he paid for the Police car and any damages the officers needs to claim.

Then I'd make him re-sit his driving test.

IF he passes, I'd then load his new licence with all the endorsements.


Totally agree, a complete waste of taxpayers money. Things like this should be dealt with common sense, and enforcement by those that have been entrusted with the power.

Finally, people need to start holding their hands up and saying "I was wrong", "I'm sorry" "it was my fault" etc.



T W A T




:angry5:

 

[j]

THis Guy, What an Arse for trying to out run a Gwent speed copper. Gwent is the only county in Wales you don't want to get caught speeding of committing a traffic violation, They don't usually break your windows, they shoot you first. Even SWP and DPP now not to get caught on Gwent.


Gwent speed cop

they make North Wales police look like fairies.

 

[StumpyFingers]

I think you are all being to harsh.
He is on medication, he gets confused easily, he was driving an illegally modified 4X4 , He is 70 years old.

He should not be allowed to Drive as his medication may be affecting his ability.

 

[winxp-master]

I think you are all being to harsh.
He is on medication, he gets confused easily, he was driving an illegally modified 4X4 , He is 70 years old.

He should not be allowed to Drive as his medication may be affecting his ability.

PISH!!!!!

You try saying it's too harsh after he smashes you off yer bike coz the dozy old sod can't see you!



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[StumpyFingers]

PISH!!!!!

You try saying it's too harsh after he smashes you off yer bike coz the dozy old sod can't see you!

Going by that report he would most probably try to sue me for scaring the **** out of him.
He needs help the kind that requires him to be placed in a padded room.

 

[AlanH]

So it's not just me then :teeth:

 

[jasonbc]

I couldn't believe this when I read it...

WalesOnline - News - Wales News - Stroke man to sue police for £100k for stress after attack on his car

The usual anti-police mob are up in arms about this of course - but they seem to be ignoring some pretty obvious issues when siding with this 70 year old disabled driver who is intent on suing the police to the tune of £100k

Firstly, it is apparent that he did not have the mental abilities to ascertain whether the police had finished dealing with him when they were booking him for no seatbelt. In his hurry to drive off (he says he needed to because he needed his heart and stroke medication), he clouted a copper. Off they trot in pursuit with twos and blues going - for miles!

He doesn't think that maybe they still want to talk to him. On the contrary, he maintains that he got confused and thought they were giving him an escort home. LMAO!!

So, there he is in a slow pursuit in his £60k Range Rover with illegal tints on the front windows - the sort that make it difficult to see bikes at junctions - and illegal number plates that just scream "D**KHEAD ALERT". Finally, on seeing the stinger, he thinks it might be a good idea to stop. The police do the standard "put the windows in" shock and awe job which obviously takes a bit longer due to the thick tint film. As they try to remove him from the vehicle, back rolls the Range Rover into the police car. Crunch!

Is it just me that thinks that someone who is this confused and supposedly frail should not be in charge of any motor vehicle - let alone one fitted with illegal vision restricting accessories?

So now, because of this twit, two coppers are suspended from duty pending investigation. What a waste of taxpayers money. If he gets a single penny out of the police, it will be a travesty (and, for the benefit of all those avid gutter press readers, that's nothing to do with cross-dressing).

...and relax

People who take the piss should get double the sentence there must be at least 4 offences there that could get 3 points each. Throw the book at the silly *******. Then give him a driving test and full medical to see if fit to get another license

Firstly, I'd throw the book at the silly old ****

Then I'd double everything (just for being a tinted window, wannabee gangster tosser), and make sure he paid for the Police car and any damages the officers needs to claim.





:angry5:

Don't know if i like that quote, my L200's got blacked out back door windows and 3 blacked back windows. I don't think i'm Tosser, defo not a Gansta

 

[AlanH]

Don't know if i like that quote, my L200's got blacked out back door windows and 3 blacked back windows. I don't think i'm Tosser, defo not a Gansta

Well, to be a proper Gangsta Tosser you'd need the front ones done too

 

[©-©]

Now calm down, calm down

I say, steady on chaps ... this is all getting somewhat ageist, tosserist and gangstaist ... can the forum afford the litigation ?

 

[sean]

THis Guy, What an Arse for trying to out run a Gwent speed copper. Gwent is the only county in Wales you don't want to get caught speeding of committing a traffic violation, They don't usually break your windows, they shoot you first. Even SWP and DPP now not to get caught on Gwent.


they make North Wales police look like fairies.

in which case, I hope he wins and all the coppers are sacked.

 

[davsato]

I think you are all being to harsh.
He is on medication, he gets confused easily, he was driving an illegally modified 4X4 , He is 70 years old.

you just described the duke of edinburgh, another old **** that should be shot

 

[jasonbc]

Well, to be a proper Gangsta Tosser you'd need the front ones done too

What about spinners do they count???

 

[pdsquire]

A bizarre incident!

I doubt he'll get anything for stress but he might be onto something for a complaint against the police.

Why didn't the yellow jacketed fella just try to open the door and take the keys out before using his asp? And at the time his colleague jumped on the bonnet, the engine was running and the only reason the vehicle was stationary was because the driver had the brakes on. That officer put himself in real danger, and could have achieved the same by putting the second police car infront of the RR.

I've no sympathy at all for the driver for being inattentive and driving off from the earlier incident (which should have been made impossible had the police taken his keys), but if I were these officers' boss, I'd want to be talking to them about training...

 

[Boris]

Why didn't the yellow jacketed fella just try to open the door and take the keys out before using his asp? And at the time his colleague jumped on the bonnet, the engine was running and the only reason the vehicle was stationary was because the driver had the brakes on. That officer put himself in real danger, and could have achieved the same by putting the second police car infront of the RR.

I understand (from the TV admittedly) the police have this this standard operating procedure during chases of "shock and awe" basiclly scaring the beejesus out of the driver by putting in the windows to disorientate him and take his mind off driving off again. The bod on the bonnet was to craze the windscreen making it harder to drive much further. A traffic car infront of a RR isn't really going to stop much if the driver is determined to get away.

Opening the door. Seems a good way to get a knife in the ribs. At least if the driver is covered in glass and terrified and lying across the seats they are less likely to go on the offensive.

In saying that it did seem a bit OTT but if that's SOP then so be it. I'm sure it's there for a reason.

I've no sympathy at all for the driver for being inattentive and driving off from the earlier incident (which should have been made impossible had the police taken his keys), but if I were these officers' boss, I'd want to be talking to them about training...

Quite, and I often wonder why they don't seem to remove keys as a routine procedure. Watch it on the telly and they so often jump back in and drive off. Seems a bit daft if you ask me.

 

[Warthog]

Hmmm.

I'm not defending the driver: evidently an idiot - I would have made damn sure that the police were happy for me to leave before doing so.

However, this "Shock and Awe" technique does sound a bit "America's Worst Car Chases".

By all means, use that technique in a high speed chase where evasion has clearly been attempted, but here the daft driver was nonetheless on the correct side of the road, following the speed limit: hardly a danger to the public. You can even hear the copper saying he's happy to continue in a calm voice.

According to the article, he nudged a policeman as the car jolted forward: not clear if this was as he was "leaving" prematurely, or if this was during the seatbelt booking, in which case the police must have already established it was a mistake. So in the case of the latter: again no real need to knock the crap out of the car, unless said policeman wanted to get even?

And why did the police not usher him into the police car as they usually do: it would be quite clear when they had finished with him by virtue of the fact they would have let him out again...

Puzzling...

 

[pale rider]

'shock and awe technique' that may explain the actions of the police last week with me and our lass while out in the car.

Basically we were driving along the road not far from our house when we saw a police car half-in and half-out of a side road with a black ford focus up on the path and it looked like the police car had jammed the other car against the wall completely blocking the footpath.

Needless to say we had a gorp as we went past we barely got 100 yards further down the road when we heard the sirens wailing and looking out the rear window I saw this police car frantically driving after us on a very busy traffic-strewn stretch of road narrowly missing oncoming cars as he went the wrong way round traffic islands to catch up with us. I could see cars having to put two wheels on the kerb to avoid a collision with said police car.

To our surprise he got behind us so our lass immediately pulled over, the police officer came up to the driver's side window and announced that the reason he had stopped us was because he thought I wasn't wearing a seatbelt, as he thrust his head through the now open window to see if I was.

"You mean this seatbelt?" I remarked hooking my thumb under the belt to show that it was in fact securely fastened.

After taking both our names and addresses he then asked our lass if she had been drinking and she replied; "Yes, I had a 330ml bottle of cider some hours earlier" at which he asked her if she would sit in his patrol car while he administered a breath test. So she got in his car but he didn't actually have a breathalyser device with him at which point the black ford focus drew alongside with its blue lights flashing behind the grille revealing it was in fact an undercover police car (the same car that was perched on the footpath we'd seen earlier) and they handed a breathalyser out of the window through
the window of the marked police car.

He used the device and it came back negative. after which he told our lass that the reason he had stopped us was because I'd looked at him suspiciously as we went past. She told me this after she had got back into the car and the police car had driven away. Was I glad he hadn't said that where I was as I may have said something he'd no doubt have made me regret.

Obviously as bikers we all pay great attention to side roads on the left as it is a major hazard area where vehicles can pull out in front of you. Everyone on this site must know what I mean when I say that furthermore after seeing a car wedged against the wall by a police car and the police car itself being very badly positioned at the junction itself I think it would have attracted anybody's curiosity.

So after witnessing his subsequent dangerous pursuit driving and hop, skip and jump from seatbelts to driving under the influence and finally settle on my suspicious look, I cannot be totally convinced that this 70 year old Range Rover driver (despite his own errors) is totally unfounded in his claims. The fact that the officers that were involved have been suspended makes things even more suspicious.

All the events leading up to that dramatic bit of footage are unknown to us as we only have the police officers' testimony as to what led up to the chase.
After last Sunday's fiasco that I couldn't believe unfolded right in front of me, I cannot easily believe that the old guy brought it all upon himself in the video......

 

[pdsquire]

'shock and awe technique' that may explain the actions of the police last week with me and our lass while out in the car.......

Now there's an own goal. The Feds don't need to be making enemies of a good bloke like you, Derek.

*shakes head* Terrible.

 

[BobA]

'shock and awe technique' that may explain the actions of the police last week with me and our lass while out in the car.

Basically we were driving along the road not far from our house when we saw a police car half-in and half-out of a side road with a black ford focus up on the path and it looked like the police car had jammed the other car against the wall completely blocking the footpath.

Needless to say we had a gorp as we went past we barely got 100 yards further down the road when we heard the sirens wailing and looking out the rear window I saw this police car frantically driving after us on a very busy traffic-strewn stretch of road narrowly missing oncoming cars as he went the wrong way round traffic islands to catch up with us. I could see cars having to put two wheels on the kerb to avoid a collision with said police car.

To our surprise he got behind us so our lass immediately pulled over, the police officer came up to the driver's side window and announced that the reason he had stopped us was because he thought I wasn't wearing a seatbelt, as he thrust his head through the now open window to see if I was.

"You mean this seatbelt?" I remarked hooking my thumb under the belt to show that it was in fact securely fastened.

After taking both our names and addresses he then asked our lass if she had been drinking and she replied; "Yes, I had a 330ml bottle of cider some hours earlier" at which he asked her if she would sit in his patrol car while he administered a breath test. So she got in his car but he didn't actually have a breathalyser device with him at which point the black ford focus drew alongside with its blue lights flashing behind the grille revealing it was in fact an undercover police car (the same car that was perched on the footpath we'd seen earlier) and they handed a breathalyser out of the window through
the window of the marked police car.

He used the device and it came back negative. after which he told our lass that the reason he had stopped us was because I'd looked at him suspiciously as we went past. She told me this after she had got back into the car and the police car had driven away. Was I glad he hadn't said that where I was as I may have said something he'd no doubt have made me regret.

Obviously as bikers we all pay great attention to side roads on the left as it is a major hazard area where vehicles can pull out in front of you. Everyone on this site must know what I mean when I say that furthermore after seeing a car wedged against the wall by a police car and the police car itself being very badly positioned at the junction itself I think it would have attracted anybody's curiosity.

So after witnessing his subsequent dangerous pursuit driving and hop, skip and jump from seatbelts to driving under the influence and finally settle on my suspicious look, I cannot be totally convinced that this 70 year old Range Rover driver (despite his own errors) is totally unfounded in his claims. The fact that the officers that were involved have been suspended makes things even more suspicious.

All the events leading up to that dramatic bit of footage are unknown to us as we only have the police officers' testimony as to what led up to the chase.
After last Sunday's fiasco that I couldn't believe unfolded right in front of me, I cannot easily believe that the old guy brought it all upon himself in the video......

I still think the old boy in the Range Rover was a ****, however in your incident, it certainly sounds like plod should be awarded the dick award and could possibly benefit from a bit of customer relations training. I think I would have been tempted to report the whole incident to his superior at the station.

You weren't wearing a burkha and waving some kind of smoking object at them as you sailed past were you??