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Ladies & Gents, TLD 2010 is sorted and is fast approaching :thumbup: Riders and Pillions are still registering (74 riders to date, thats good going, we could hit 100 by June), ferries are sorted, decals/t-shirts are sorted, accomodation is sorted, so apart from actually doing the run in June, everything is done. Do we now need to start sorting out next years run, so that we are well prepared, so first things first which Charity ? It is easy to say, lets get 2010 out of the way first, but this thing is developing and we need to improve each year, so it's not to early to start thinking about 2011 now ! Is it ?
 

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Ladies & Gents, TLD 2010 is sorted and is fast approaching :thumbup: Riders and Pillions are still registering (74 riders to date, thats good going, we could hit 100 by June), ferries are sorted, decals/t-shirts are sorted, accomodation is sorted, so apart from actually doing the run in June, everything is done. Do we now need to start sorting out next years run, so that we are well prepared, so first things first which Charity ? It is easy to say, lets get 2010 out of the way first, but this thing is developing and we need to improve each year, so it's not to early to start thinking about 2011 now ! Is it ?
2011 I have not even got used to 2010 yet.
 

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To make this an annual event it needs the 7 Ps

a route should also be discussed something challenging but without the nausea of ferries
some that stuck in my mind
A bridge too far (UK biggest highest longest bestest)
Twin Towers Blackpool to London Tower or vicky verky
(Blackpool to Eifel but that means bloody ferries or trains and tickets)

the JOGLE again (without the basil faulty welcome)

I'm sure loads of other suggestions will come


 

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To make this an annual event it needs the 7 Ps

a route should also be discussed something challenging but without the nausea of ferries
some that stuck in my mind
A bridge too far (UK biggest highest longest bestest)
Twin Towers Blackpool to London Tower or vicky verky
(Blackpool to Eifel but that means bloody ferries or trains and tickets)

the JOGLE again (without the basil faulty welcome)

I'm sure loads of other suggestions will come


The JOGLE always has a challenging factor that everyone recognises,
A member at work does this every year for his local charity and gets a lot of support.
 

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the same bloke owns the hotels both ends.
He charged me 36 quid for a double room for 2 1/2 hours because he said I couldn't just have a nap in the bar or mudwiz could not bivi out in the carpark.
 

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OK I wasn't going to post in this thread mainly because TLD 2010 is so busy even thinking about 2011 gives me a headache, but I've been thinking quite a bit about charities that are close to my heart.

We've raised money for big charities and without a doubt national charities provide the draw for big money.

Last year I loved the make a wish foundation mainly because at the end of it we knew that our money would directly benefit these poor children and we would finance as a result of our efforts 5 wishes for children. 5 wishes is not a great deal but to these kids it's the world

MacMillan the year before I felt strongly about because the Vaders had gained great comfort from a cancer hospice when a loved one died. But in truth Macmillan is a massive charity and what we raised in the grand scheme of things wasn't huge, the same could be said for this years. Now all of these are excellent causes but huge charities rarely stuggle to raise funds, unlike some smaller struggling charities

Where am I going with this you may ask (more likely Sharrie get to the bloody point I'm bored now :D)

OK my point, this year in Wales I have seen one small cancer charity go out of business, I shared an office with one of their nurses who was made redundant. I listened to her comforting distressed dying patients and their families whilst telling them that after that phone call they would have no support from a cancer nurse and would have to wait to see their oncologist in clinic to get questions answered. That's barbaric and I found it extremely distressing.

Now I have another specialist cancer nurse, she works in Pancreatic Cancer and has funding for another 2 years, after this time she's looking for work. I'd quite like to see us raise money to be able to fund her for another year. Something tangable, and something that we can sit back and say we directly did that.

It doesn't have to be this particular charity, maybe someone has something else close to their heart. I'd also like to see us raise money for my mountain rescue team, we desperately need a new control ambulance but because we are a tiny charity only manage to raise about £15,000 per year, most of this is from team member donations and this only just manages to keep our vehicles on the road, fuelled and our base in a good state of repair. I cannot describe what £20,000 would mean to us, we could buy a new ambulance rather than the 10 year old vehicle we have now.

I'd like to see something small, personal, and tangable. I'd prefer a cancer charity, and directly funding a specialist nurse but something that is going to make a difference to a small charity.

OK I'm going to open another beer now.

Off my soap box.
 

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Too small a charity may be too selective, what about "friends of chernobil children", small, desperate for cash and all over Brittan, the £500 that each rider raises on average will take a seriously iradated child out of the danger area for a month, the point is that your(our) fund raising is just the start, once the kids are in the UK people look after them for free, we just need to help get them here and back and some poor kid in the fallout area comes to the UK pale, grey and undernurished and goes home a month later rosey cheeked, full of life and with a far greater life expectancy, got to be worth considering
( sorry to rant but this one's close to my heart )
 

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Sharrie said .. etc etc and blah blah then -
Now I have another specialist cancer nurse, she works in Pancreatic Cancer and has funding for another 2 years, after this time she's looking for work. I'd quite like to see us raise money to be able to fund her for another year. Something tangable, and something that we can sit back and say we directly did that.

It doesn't have to be this particular charity, maybe someone has something else close to their heart. I'd also like to see us raise money for my mountain rescue team, we desperately need a new control ambulance but because we are a tiny charity only manage to raise about £15,000 per year, most of this is from team member donations and this only just manages to keep our vehicles on the road, fuelled and our base in a good state of repair. I cannot describe what £20,000 would mean to us, we could buy a new ambulance rather than the 10 year old vehicle we have now. then more blah blah blah
Actually, I'm in full agreement for what it's worth.

I think the Longest Day needs to find a niche - otherwise we are just the same as every other charity/fundraising event out there.. and there are millions of them.

I absolutely loved the first two charities we raised money for - one in four is affected by cancer one way or another and Make A Wish do something totally unique.

Im reminded what Whealie said after last years ride - something to the effect that Make a Wish ticked all the boxes because it was non political, was not something a governmental department should be doing anyhow, provided a service that no one else was going to provide, and the only criteria for support was you had to be a child with a life threatening illness.

The upshot of our efforts over the last two years is that people and families affected with cancer have been succored and 5 children, who are possibly no longer with us, have had their dying wish come true.

We made that happen.

I am totally and wholeheartedly in favour of supporting smaller charities. Perhaps that should be our niche....

A few grand to a charity such as Sharries or the nurse she works with will literally, directly, save lives.

And without that few grand the service will cease to exist and people suffering from cancer, or people lost on the mountains in minus 14 dressed in a miniskirt and high heels and the bloke in nylon shirt and lofers (Coz they is from Dagenham innit and heard about this mountain thinky innit) will die... or at the very least be a lot worse off !!!!!

There were argumenets against parochial, smaller charities last year, and they are valid and not easy to overcome, but they can be overcome with imagination and cunning advertising and marketing strategies.

Maybe some though should be given now to the purpose of TLD seeing as we are now running in our third sucessful year.

Make as much money as possible for humungus charities.. who have millions upon millions in the bank ...

.. or make a monumental difference to smaller struggling charities whose hands on work directly impacts on those receiving the service of the charity and who are almost wholly staffed by volunteers and without our input they would cease to exist....

... just some thoughts......
 

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lost on the mountains in minus 14 dressed in a miniskirt and high heels and the bloke in nylon shirt and lofers ....
Dont you dare talk about Sharriebee and J like that
There my friends:D:D:toothy4::toothy4:
 

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I think this is a very good idea, the smaller charities will benefit a lot more from the money.

It's `what` charities though... theres already been 2 mentioned and i'm sure there will be a lot more people giving reasons as to why the charity they favour should receive the money.

First year we raised over 15 grand, second year over 20 grand. We seem to be gaining more recruits for the rides each year so could we possibly top 30 grand and choose 3 charitites to receive 10 grand each?

Just a thought.



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I think this is a very good idea, the smaller charities will benefit a lot more from the money.

It's `what` charities though... theres already been 2 mentioned and i'm sure there will be a lot more people giving reasons as to why the charity they favour should receive the money.

First year we raised over 15 grand, second year over 20 grand. We seem to be gaining more recruits for the rides each year so could we possibly top 30 grand and choose 3 charitites to receive 10 grand each?

Just a thought.
That crossed my mind as well, but not sure about the logistics of it.

Great idea though
 

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Iso could we possibly top 30 grand and choose 3 charitites to receive 10 grand each?

Just a thought.
smaller charities lesser amount but greater impact.....:rolleyes: I like the idea too...
 

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I like the smaller charities idea, however it's going to end up with a long list of deserving charities in lots of different localities which could cause a big headache.
Regards routes I feel we should look for something that doesn't involve ferries it should make the logistics easier.


PS I think this discussion should wait until June 23rd but that's just me.
 

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PS I think this discussion should wait until June 23rd but that's just me.

if we have it then folk will say bOOOOger that.. takes a month for the aches to fade :cool:

Jogle- lejog sounds good , have nearly got to do it both ways being in Aberdeenshire :)))

Charity.. not fussed just tell me when you've sorted it :blob4:

keep up th egood work folks :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
 

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Small charities: tick

Split charities is possible but complicated: cross

LEJOG: cross. Just too far, too boring, nothing in between

Cancer theme: cross. Two members of my immediate family have had cancer recently so it is not as if I have no interest in finding cures, but it's not a cause I particularly want to raise money for.

I'm disturbed by how many cancer charities there are, each with their individual administrations to fund. There's no doubt that those who work in them are honourably motivated but it is just not sensible to deal with a global problem in such a piecemeal way. The big ones are HUGE and they, together with the government and universities, are funding an enormous amount of research. It is just not true that cures are not forthcoming because of the lack of funding. Cures will certainly not come about quicker because a little local charity is funded for another year.

Not a popular observation perhaps, but true.

I think children are a winner: the idea appeals to each of us and is not difficult to raise money for. Make A Wish was a stroke of genius: a national charity, small in scale but doing something that no-one else is doing and with no overlap with government's functions. Anything that hits those three targets will get my vote. The national organisation of children's contact centres (where parents who have split up can see their kids) appeals but is not well known, but I'll take any other suggestions. :)

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I agree with PDSquire, although Cancer charities are a worthwhile cause the shear number of them seems to be defeating the object.
Make a Wish is a charity that does not seem to get the recognition it deserves, it does not spend as much of it money on advertising.
It is also for children, always a winner in the eyes of most people.
Help for heroes is also a cause that seems to be overlooked by the mainstream because we foolishly believe the powers that be will look after their wounded.
I still stand by my comment last year that we should become associated with the Makeawish foundation.
 

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I think children are a winner: the idea appeals to each of us and is not difficult to raise money for. Make A Wish was a stroke of genius: a national charity, small in scale but doing something that no-one else is doing and with no overlap with government's functions. Anything that hits those three targets will get my vote. The national organisation of children's contact centres (where parents who have split up can see their kids) appeals but is not well known, but I'll take any other suggestions. :)

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I still stand by my comment last year that we should become associated with the Makeawish foundation.

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What about 3 charities one for each Wales/Scotland & England, that way if someone is involved with a particular charity in their area they suggest it and we have three votes for each area of the country. We can then keep to the principle of assisting smaller charities and hopefully make a big impact for them. As regards to routes not fussed as I will be missing this year’s ride but there’s no way will be missing next year’s :thumbup:.
 
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