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Bad news on the grave.cz crashbars front...

Bob and I have been waiting for Grave to let us know they were working on our crash bars and that shipping was imminent. Bob just chased them up as we were given an ETA of March (yes, I know, it's a long time to wait from September but they are/were good). They hadn't taken any payment up front and said just pay when they had a firm ETA. Well, they've cancelled our order for health reasons. It's disappointing having been waiting for months and now no Grave bars to show for it.

For anyone else thinking of Grave.cz for bars etc, it looks like they are out of the picture which is a real shame as they were the dogs danglies.

So, back to choosing the best of the bendy crashbars as an alternative. Doh!
 

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I've heard mixed reports about the Touratech ones. Some say they're fine, others say they are susceptible to bending and damaging the fairing. They do seem a really close fit. I suppose they'd save a radiator but they do seem rather feeble compared with the grave.cz ones - although arguably better than many of the others that mount on the most stupid places like the belly pan mounts.

SW Motech look pretty solid but they are tiny and if the bike goes properly over sideways on something rough rather than a car park drop, I'm sure the rad will cop it along with the fairing side panel.

Shame there isn't anyone else doing something like the Grave ones.
 

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Alan and BOb..

those africa queens do not bend 100% for sure..I`ve had a set for 3 years and used for the trails and I fall a lot from slow speed mud/ruts to 30mph tank mud baths..the centre support bar between the cylinders prevent the bars bending in..

Wilso recently bought some too..very good fast service..just email them.

pics in my folder if anyone wants to look..ow yes they are handy for pulling out of wilts boggs....ha ha
 

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What do you reckon Bob? I think they may be the way to go. Being German, I'm sure they'll be ruthlessly efficient :D
Don't bet on it they come from Italy :) Stephan is a top bloke though, they had a new guy that did not put everything together. From first email to arrival was ten days, missing bits turned up three days later so all good :)

Pictures of the bars on the bike can be found here...
https://picasaweb.google.com/102423395313094156599/TransAlpBoanoConversion


Likewise I tried Grave and no reply for 4 weeks meant I went elsewhere. Got to say I think the A'Q ones are really great and with the strut between the cylinders mean they wont fold inwards, highly recommended!
 

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africa queens ones are made by Rickycross in Italy for sure...and you dont need to remove them to service the bike and you can still use the center stand..what ever that is..ha ha and black is best..

just dont catch the cylinder joining pipe other wise you`ll leak water..yep dont ask.
 

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africa queens ones are made by Rickycross in Italy for sure.
There was a thread a while back about Rugged Roads getting in Ricky Cross Africa Twin crash bars. The main concern with Ricky Cross was the variable quality with people reporting nasty welding, poor finish and bars that were different clearances on each side. Rugged roads then stopped stocking them because of the variable quality. I then decided to go for the Grave bars.

Better to have wonky bars than no bars I suppose :rolleyes:. Maybe it's worth a go but for the price I'd expect them to be spot on.
 

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I've given up now :( , I think I'll just keep using my Transalp on the road.

Real shame about Grave, hopefully the illness is not long term.
 

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Those are just uppers. They mount on the belly pan side mounts at the bottom and the fairing subframe at the top. I reckon that dropping the bike on these may give a bit of fairing protection but will just transfer the load to parts of the the bike that will bend. The corresponding H&B lowers mount on the belly pan side mounts as well as the front downtube. The Grave and Ricky Cross ones mount to the frame at the rear, downtube at the front and also have cross-bracing between the cylinders meaning they are very robust.

They may be better than nothing in a car park drop but I wonder whether they may actually cause more damage in the event of a heavier drop.
 

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You won't regret it they look great and tramp has put them through the ringer more than once... just ask them to double check all nuts bolts and bars are in place before shipping :) piccy when on, reccon they will look great on your bike.
 

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Hi Everyone,

Forum Newbie here - first post - but diving straight in here as I'm in the process of addressing the crashbar issue for my '04 650 TA which I'm using only as a dedicated trail rider...

The Grave bars look fab - shame if the company has some problems - though I have Slovakian connections - so I will try an inquiry in due course just to check in-case the company has got back on track....

In my searches I've come across Holan crashbars Holan » Crashbars Honda TransAlp XL 650 V - I'm a little surprised there's no mention of them on this thread - they look the part - would welcome comments from anyone who has any experience of these..?
 

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The Holans appear identical to the Touratech bars so I'd have the same concerns about them. The Grave ones are probably the best out there so if you do manage to get some then go for it. I've now committed to the African Queens/Ricky Cross bars now having waited almost 6 months for Grave without success.

Welcome to the site :)
 

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The Holans appear identical to the Touratech bars so I'd have the same concerns about them...
Oooh yeah... don't they just... even the associated blurb appears to be cut & pasted from one web site to the other. On close inspection there are some cosmetically different curves... but they appear to both use the same anchor points...

The Grave ones are probably the best out there so if you do manage to get some then go for it.
I've fired off an email to Grave in Czeck & English to cover all bases... I'll post any response...

One other avenue I'm going to try - is take some pics of the grave bars down to my local light engineering workshop and ask - can you do that/how much..?

Welcome to the site :)
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One other avenue I'm going to try - is take some pics of the grave bars down to my local light engineering workshop and ask - can you do that/how much..?
It would be worth getting a few sets made up at the same time. I was thinking of doing something similar but haven't got time to sort it out at the moment.
 
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