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Hey guys, my starter relay burnt out as a result of reticifier failure. I dont want to pay the insane price that honda wants for a new one. After looking at the thing closely (from the outside from a non electrical point of view) the original doesnt look anything special, the on-unit fuse is just connected via contacts to the relay pins.

Is it possible to use a generic type relay for bikes or can I just buy a normal relay and wire a fuse into the correct place (if so, what type would i need?). I assume the latter would be the cheapest

My top connector melted so i will be doing some custom fitting even if i do use the honda part with the in unit fuse.



Thanks!!
 
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I presume that this is the starter solenoid that we are talking about? (Sorry, just being pedantic).

You don't say which year and model of AT you have, but the starter solenoids are common across almost the whole Honda range.

For instance Part No: 35850-MR5-007 is used on everything from the Pantheon 125 step-thru to the ST1100 Pan European, including the XRV750P to Y models.

If, as you say, you need to change the connector as well, then a "generic" starter solenoid will do the job. However, you will need to make sure that it is up to the job of carrying the starter motor current.



 
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I spoke to an electrician and he also pretty much told me that any relay that can handle the current will work. The guy at the yamaha shop in my town can get me a new yamaha one for half the price of the honda one. I had a look at it and saw that it has 2 x 15amp fuses in it whereas the twin's has one 30 amp.

I tried to find out on the web why it has 2 and am having some trouble getting an answer. Found one page that says its a spare which would make this a 15 amp relay?

The yamaha guy says that all their fuses are like that. Any idea if this is true? Cause ive seen pictures of yamaha fuses with 30 amp fuses in them.

Other option is to buy a car relay. Can even get that in a 70 amp rated version and just stick a 30 amp fuse on it? The car relay seems so delicate and light compared to the heavy build of the bike one.

Still donno what to do. I want to buy one locally so that I dont have to wait for shipping (im in SA) but refuse to pay honda's R800 (bout 75 pounds depending on the exchange rate)
 
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Devilkin said:
Other option is to buy a car relay. Can even get that in a 70 amp rated version and just stick a 30 amp fuse on it? The car relay seems so delicate and light compared to the heavy build of the bike one.
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That's because the car relay is a relay. The starter solenoid (that takes the couple of hundred amps of a car starter motor) is often mounted on the starter motor itself.

Here's the starter solenoid for the Transalp -



As you can see, there is no fuse between the battery and the starter motor - thick black lines.

The fuse (in this case 30 Amp) is what the whole rest of the bike's electrical system is fused at. The two fuses on the Yamaha relay may well be one 15 Amp fuse (for the bike's electrical system) and a spare - or Yamaha might split their bikes electrical systems in two, with a fuse for each section.

Just to be clear -

The Red and Red/White wires are the supply wires. Red goes to the Ignition switch, and the Red/White wire comes from the Regulator/Rectifier.

The Yellow/Red and Red/Green wires operate the starter solenoid.



 
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